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Can a Mormon be elected President?

Republican Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney gave a speech this week on religion and specifically, on his Mormon faith. The debate over whether evangelical Christians view Mormonism as Christianity is a huge issue--and we barely scratched the surface on TV. So here's a chance for more discussion...

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does see Mormonism as Christianity; followers read the Bible and believe in Christ. But they also believe that in the 1830s, Joseph Smith was led to a hill in upstate New York where he received engraved plates of gold from an angel, that he transcribed into the Book of Mormon.

No question, being a Mormon differs from being a Baptist, Catholic, Presbyterian or a member of any other demonimation--in teachings and in practice. But how do you view those differences? And in selecting a presidential candidate to support, does it--and-should it--make a difference?

To get the disccusion started, here's an excerpt from Romney's speech:
"There are some who may feel that religion is not a matter to be seriously considered in the context of the weighty threats that face us. If so, they are at odds with the nation's founders, for they, when our nation faced its greatest peril, sought the blessings of the Creator. And further, they discovered the essential connection between the survival of a free land and the protection of religious freedom. In John Adams' words: 'We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion... Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people.' Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom. Freedom opens the windows of the soul so that man can discover his most profound beliefs and commune with God. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone.
"Given our grand tradition of religious tolerance and liberty, some wonder whether there are any questions regarding an aspiring candidate's religion that are appropriate. I believe there are. And I will answer them today. Almost 50 years ago another candidate from Massachusetts explained that he was an American running for President, not a Catholic running for President. Like him, I am an American running for President. I do not define my candidacy by my religion. A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith. Let me assure you that no authorities of my church, or of any other church for that matter, will ever exert influence on presidential decisions. Their authority is theirs, within the province of church affairs, and it ends where the affairs of the nation begin. As Governor, I tried to do the right as best I knew it, serving the law and answering to the Constitution. I did not confuse the particular teachings of my church with the obligations of the office and of the Constitution – and of course, I would not do so as President. I will put no doctrine of any church above the plain duties of the office and the sovereign authority of the law."

Comments

Is Mr. Romney saying he won't serve seculars because they value freedom but don't believe in a divine being? The founders whose ancestors fled religious tyranny ensured freedom from religion as well as freedom of religion. He needs to stop pandering to evangelicals and bring moral, socially conscious non-believers into his narrow tent.

What disturbs me is not that Mr. Romney is Mormon, but that during his speech he stated "You cannot have religion without freedom, nor freedom without religion". From this, I can infer that Mr. Romney believes that those who do not have religion cannot be free. This is a far cry from what our Constitution says (and, what President Kennedy stated in his speech), which is that we cannot have freedom without a separation of church and state. I'm not sure why this is even being discussed as an issue, religion should be left out of politics, period.

Mr Romney is a most qualified candidate for President. Look at his experience in the private and public sector. He is a natural and very strong leader. How he prays or who he prays to has nothing what so ever to do with his ability to serve the US. Evangelicals are the root of this problem and they need to "get over it". Romney is electable and will previal over the months to come.
Why hasn't Reverend Huckabee been asked if he as a "Pastor" will require Americans to become Baptists, not dance, not hold hands, and wear long dresses? Thats what I hear about those Baptists. Isnt it true? They are awful fanatics!
Romney should never have had to give this speech. He was forced to respond by the so called "Evangelical Christians" to protect his lead in Iowa. Look at NH. They are not moved by the so called "Christian right wing". Those NH folks think for themselves.

If Moses' hair turned white just at the sight of a burning bush that God showed him, I can't imagine how Joseph White could have lived at the sight of God the Father AND Jesus Christ! White claims to have seen both God and His Son. No one could have survived that sight. Exodus 33:20 in the Old Testament of the Bible states: And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

My comments are mostly about the Mormon church rather than Mr. Romney. A comment above refers to Joseph "White." It was Joseph Smith who supposedly saw God and Jesus and spoke with them when he was only 14 years old. I was born and raised and brainwashed a Mormon my entire life. The people you had defending the church on your show outright lied to you. They said nothing secret happens in the temple. Nothing BUT secret happens in the temple. They get baptized for the dead. They have all kinds of weird secret ceremonies that are NOT to be revealed to the outside world. They even give you your "name" which is what they tell you your "real" name is from heaven, and you are not to tell anyone what it is. Is that not a secret? They prefer to use the word "sacred," but to me it is nothing but secrets in that temple. Not to mention that they believe that EVERYONE (including Mother Theresa) must accept the Mormon religion (even after they die, thus the baptism for the dead) before they can progress in the afterlife and walk with God. I have only begun to touch on this subject.

The Mormon prophet was Joseph Smith, not Joseph White. You should look into reputable sources of information and you will know these simple facts.

The trouble is, when you look closer, it's obvious that the beginning of the church was established on a series of convenient revelations where he (lower case "he" for Smith, not God) established rules and guidelines for the church and said that they were the word of God. Any careful research will locate this information.

That said, we should be far more concerned about the flip-flops, and the assertion that we cannot be free without religion.

Mr. Romney is very smart, and an obvious choice as a manager of public and private organizations. I believe that he is probably the best choice on paper. Even with that initial opinion, I was almost immediately put off during his speech by the delivery, and the apparent willingness to say anything to reach the goal. He delivered compassionate words in praise of a former president, followed by three or four claps before he turned to his notes and the task at hand. His lukewarm words in support of the troops is another instance of words that he spoke without apparent meaning behind them.

Mr. Romney is approaching 60 years old and his flip-flops have occurred in the last 10 years?

I can't watch his actions and feel that he really means what he is saying.

Of course Mitt will serve athiests and agnostics.

Look at what Huckabee's religion did to cloud his judgment by pressuring the parol board to release a rapist who had been 'saved' but then went out and killed his wife http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004061354_huckcase09.html

Mitt has been a success at everything he has done.

Look at his family--five sons, all married and successful. Grandkids, children who like him and work with/for him.

Look at what he did with the Olympics a few months after 9/11. Success. Profitable success.

He has run his businesses efficiently.

There are some who will use their bigotry and prejudice and not vote for this overly-qualified person.

I am not of the Mormon faith. I do not believe in their teachings, but, my experience is that the Mormon church has just as large a percentage of "good" people as any other faith. His record and his conduct speak for himself. He seems to have high moral values. If he's elected I have a feeling he will be a good president. I hope at least he won't have sex in the oval office.

Truly all non muslim religons are cults, all cults including mormon and christanity claim that allah had spoken thru prophets directly to them and then had scribed allah's message to their "holy" books, and claim to worship him through their preists and idol images, but we who know the "real" truth, only worship the real "spoken" word of the true lord Allah. For the Holy al Koran is the only direct word of God and only those who worship without idols and false icons can truly be granted the solace of heaven in his grace. One day "He" will reveal himself to all mankind and "His true words" as "he had spoken" directly through the Holy al Koran and submit the will of Allah will be the found in "his" kingdom, And his kingdom will include the nation of U.S.A

May His Grace the great god Allah bless our beautiful land and country
and one day may his will have an islamic rule and help heal the wounds that your false idol cults have inflicted, Allah does not permit even the slightest bit of un-cleanliness including homosexuality unlike your false gods who would accept a homo into heaven if he does worship him as a god. Hell is real america wake up, read the Only true word of god, the only way not to burn in eternal hellfire and elect only politions who are true and just to "his" words otherwise we will all go down in flames

praise be to Allah the great

Mitt Romney is the most qualified and most honest of all of the candidates.
He has been successful with every aspect of his life and we need a proven leader in the White House.
We need to be tolerant of one another as Americans and Governor Romney can make this happen.
God Bless Governor Romney and his family and God Bless America !

Is Mormonism Christianity?
The short answer is, NO.
The Mormon religion teaches that “as man is, God once was; as God is man may become.” (fifth LDS President Lorenzo Snow. In June of 1840) God was once a man just like us, I myself can rise to an omniscient, omnipotent God of my own world, having celestial sex and populating my own world with spirit children!!!! This is what Mormonism teaches and it is one of the reasons Mormonism is a non-Christian cult. There are no teachings in the Bible that supports this kind of doctrine.
There will be Mormons who will say that what I have stated is false, but they are simple unaware of all that their own documents teach. Folks who are really interested in this should do some research on the Ferguson Manuscript.
Larry Jaquish

I think Ali Marz Allah's comment proves conclusively why it is important to seriously evaluate a candidate's religious beliefs. How would you like to have his buddies running the country? No thanks.

I think it is interesting that when the couple was questioned about cults, one of Mr Kreuger's ideas that came out was about secrecy--then notice just how nervous he became afterwards. He defines a cult as a group of people lead by a charismatic leader who tries to keep things private. Mr. Mac then questions him about the temple—pointing out the fact that Mr. Mac, as a Non-Mormon, cannot enter the temple.

Another interesting thing to point out that was not mentioned in the video is that even most Mormons aren’t allowed in the temple—they have to pass a “worthiness test” in order to be able to enter.

Mr. Kreuger’s response is quite intriguing—he says that nothing is secret in the temple. Mormon’s go there to receive instruction but that there is nothing secret in the process.

I wonder if any of that instruction includes being honest to your fellow man, especially since this is one of the largest contradictions I have seen? Nothing secret, yet only select people can go to receive “instruction?”

Has anybody asked a Mormon about what kind of instruction they receive at the Temple (and had anyone who received anything specific—not vague ideas such as “instruction from above” or “higher knowledge”)?

Has anybody asked Romney this?

Please think of these questions when choosing our leader—do we want someone who has something to hide? Or do we want someone who is honest and open about ALL of his beliefs.

This is all sematics about what we, Mormons, do in our temple. Why would anyone care if they don't believe it's true anyway? Why can't they accept "sacred". Why are they threatened by this? In the Holy Temple, we are taught how to live righteously, have good marriages, take care of our fellowman. We make covenants that we believe are sacred and shouldn't be talked about irreverently. We worship God and give thanks for our Savior, Jesus Christ. The one writer's comments about "names" is exactly why we don't talk about these things. They are twisted, and misunderstood and can lose meaning and purpose. We believe that certain ordinances must be done here on this earth, but no one is forced to accept these ordinances. We believe in agency, it's an important part of our faith. And when a person says we're not Christian, based on requirements a bunch of people put down on paper, agreed on, and signed many years ago; well, I would rather believe in revelation, because God is capable of continuing to visit the earth through angels and give revelation as he did in Biblical times. So when a group of mortals decide what makes a Christian, and Mormons don't "fit the stereotype", well, maybe what we have is worth investigating??? God hasn't changed over the ages, people have. It's too bad that Romney had to explain his faith, because more people are interested in tearing down Mormonism than deciding if he is the man they want running for President.

When I've asked Mormon's about their temple rituals they always refuse to tell me claiming they are "sacred". The Bible and Christianity are open to all, nothing is secret, yet much is sacred and reverent. Secondly, according to the Book of Acts, followers of Jesus were first called "Christians" at Antioch. Like all words, they must have a specific meaning to be of value. Christian, for the last two thousand years, has meant those who believe in the Trinity and in salvation by grace alone through faith alone. Mormonism teaches the Trinity is a "monster" and that there are many gods in the universe. The LDS church teaches that a Mormon may even become a god, ruling their own plant. (I know it sounds unbelievable, but they do teach this.) Also, that one earns godhood, that is, celestial glory, through faith in Jesus, baptism, temple works, tithing, on and on. Mormonism is a religion of works. Christianity is a religion of grace (our salvation is secure by believing in Christ's finished work on the cross). These are just two very significant differences. Therefore, two groups with such significant differences in beliefs cannot call themselves by the same name, or else words lose all value.

I attended 4 different Christian religions, before I was baptized in the Morman Christian faith. I never thought I was a flip-flopper, just enlightened along the way, and after 40 years I am still happy I am Mormon.
We need a president like Mitt Romney that has the vision of our Constiutional forefathers.
He has proven himself as a family man, business man, and ability to balance the budget, something desperately needed. He is honest and that is what I like the best. I trust him. I feel he is another Ronald Reagan. He is smart, is positive, looks for the bright side and has good wit. I like him, he is my kind of president. The negative comments from others are like picking fly specks out of the pepper. Mitt Romney will hit a home run by dealing with real issues.
I voted for Barry Goldwater, an ultra conservative like Huckabee, and he lost badly. We need a president that represents everyone, not just the religious conservatives.
MAKE A HIT, VOTE FOR MITT!

No, I don't think a Mormon can get elected president. The religion has been unfairly stigmatized. Other religions such as traditional Christianity, Islam, Judiams, Hinduism all have some teaching that should be seen as no more or less offensive than the teaching of Mormonism, but I'm looking at this from objective perspective and unfortunately that won't be the case with many voters. Not that I support Mitt, I think he is a bad candidate, but at least I disagree with him because of his stance on the issues.

It always frustrates me hearing people debate about religion.
Reading everyone's comments about how good one religion is, and how bad others are just does not make sense to me. Is there only one "real" religion? How can everyone be so sure about theres? Many people are just born into the religion. Do they really think they are the lucky ones who were born into the "right" religion? Many people just believe in their religion because they grew up on it. To me, faith and religion is a way to get through the hard things in life, until death. After that, who knows what happens?
I have many friends of different faiths, my best friend being a Mormon.
Religion does not define a person, so i do not see why Mitt Romney being a Mormon is such a big deal. His views are much like those of Christians, which, in a perfect political world [yeah right] would not matter.

What ever happened to "separation of church and state"? I do not understand how it is legal, for lack of a better word, for a president to make choices that affect the whole nation, based on his religious views.
The major ones i can think of right now are the topics of abortion and gay marriage. A president that does not agree with these topics, most likely because of his religion, will try to keep them from happening.
Separation of church and state?

If any of you out there know the nature of mormons then you should see a loving neighbor or some one that is willing to go out and help a neighbor in need or a community when it gets flooded. You can all know that service is a huge part in what we believe as a religion. As a president you can all rest assure that he will serve our country for the best intrest as a whole and not as a part. We need a representative with good morals what ever the religion may be.

Whether a person is a Mormon or Catholic or any other religion should not even be an issue when deciding who should be President of the United States. What should be considered is whether the candidate is an honest, upstanding member of our Nation and if that candidate will do the job to his/her upmost ability.

I am a Baptist and have known many Mormons in my lifetime who have proven to me through example that they are upstanding people and follow their Christian Faith as directed by God.

I feel that Mitt Romney is a candidate who is honest, caring and a leader who could make this country much better and like John F Kennedy would do it without bringing his religion into the mix.

First off, the Mormon church was based on a 14 year old dreams and fantasies. Do you remember what it was like to be 14. Your hormones are going crazy and thus, the thought of several wives is very real. (Which is no longer taught because the United States gave Utah a choice, stop this teaching if you want to become a state.)

How about the flip-flop the Mormons have on drinking coffee. Well, until they purchased 60% of Coke a cola corporation, they were not allowed to drink it either, but "God" told their church leaders that it was now okay to drink Coke. Umm, sounds odd how the Mormon God works when it comes to money, oops, faith.

Will Mitt allow women or blacks be part of his cabinet? His church does not allow them to be in the highest positions.

Will Mitt kick out any of his children or cabinet members if they tell him that they are gay? This "church" is a group of very hateful people who do not know the first thing about family values. A family sticks together through all situations and love unconditionally.

The Mormons teach you are loved if you follow the rules of the church and you give 10% of all your money. If you don't, you are kicked out. That is not family values.

A VOTE FOR MITT (flip-flopper) IS THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO FOR THIS GREAT COUNTRY.

hmmm it sounds to me that you don't know the church that well and it seems that you are more focused on the religion than the man running for president. I see a calm and peace full man seeking out the same for the country.

THey tried to say that Mitt didn't believe or accept the Bible. He has shown that he does. They tried to say that Mitt was not a christian, but his actions speak much louder than the angry spiteful and hateful words of the so called christians that say he isn't. I have seen the actions of the Latter-day Saints (mormons) and I'd pick a helpful, kind compassionate Mormon over a hateful,lie spreading person of any other religion any day. Asking people who are angry about Mormons whether they like them makes no sense. Asking people who have fallen away from a church what that church believes is asking for incomplete information. I figure God knows what the truth is and it is up to me to ask him, not some person on a talk show whose job it is to be controversial.

I am a Mormon, and I have been all my life. I have studied the teachings of many other Christian denominations, and none of them come close to the clarity, depth, and logic that LDS teachings provide.

I should note that I have a personal testimony of the Mormon faith, but that is neither defensible nor persuasive on an internet message board, so I prefer to use logic.

We do believe that Jesus is the only son of God. We also believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. How can that be? Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN son of God.. the only person ever born of God in the flesh. We are all spirit children of our Heavenly Father. Jesus, Satan, Adam, Eve, Mitt Romney, Hilary Clinton, you, and I are all spirit children of God.

This is the main point of disagreement between the Mormon view of Christianity and the Evangelical view of Christianity. Most Evangelicals believe that Jesus Christ is God made manifest in the flesh. Mormons believe that Jesus is the literal son of God in the flesh, sent by God to atone for the sins of mankind. In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus prayed to God. He pleaded that He did not wish to endure the pain that was coming, but He ultimately submitted to the will of God. Was He praying to Himself?

If you have questions about Mormon doctrine, please don't look up the answer on websites claiming to know the "truth." Don't take the word of angry people on message boards. Don't ask anyone that you think even might tell you all the "bad" things without telling you the whole story. If you really want to know, ask a Mormon friend. If they can't answer your questions well, they will find someone who can. I wouldn't ask my Bishop what the Evangelicals or Catholics or Buddhists down the street believe. I would ask an Evangelical, or a Catholic, or a Buddhist.

Mitt Romney is a great choice, probably the best choice for President, regardless of his faith. If you check his record, you will see that any "flip-flopping" on issues like abortion were done after he studied the issue in depth and decided that he had been wrong. That's not indecisive, that's willingness to learn and grow. I want that more than someone who picks a stance once and never even considers the opposing perspective.

I didn't choose to support Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon. I support Mitt Romney because he has degrees from Harvard Business and Harvard Law. I support Mitt Romney because he turned the Olympics and the state of Massachusetts from dismal financial failures (like the U.S. now) into successful profits in a couple years. I support Mitt Romney because he was a fantastic Republican Governor in the bluest state in the country. I support Mitt Romney because, of all the candidates, he is the most wholesome, the most intelligent, and the most un-wavering in his beliefs.

A person's values absolutely has an impact on both their leadership focus, style, and "blind side(s)." What a person's values does not necessarily guarentee/influence is their leadership competencies or their ability to "make good decisions." Politics is most commonly seen as demanding a duplicitous set of often contradictory competencies those of authentic communication versus diplomatic negotiation agility. A recent study conducted here in Washington State with leading 500 companies, elected and appointed officials and community sages indicates that the leader's voice is absolutely constructed from his/her values and thus has a direct impact on the actions of the leader. The leader's ability to influence his or her followers of course is dependent on his/her competencies to lead to capture and/or influence the followers to claim the "vision" as theirs. The Washington State leadership Doctoral research: Leadership Voices TM: Values, Proactive Management, and Consciousness. The post study research has resulted in the highly received, recently released book Leadership VoicesTM: Neutralizing Bullies, Determinedly Difficult People, and Predators At Work. This work (written for the general public) looks at one's values (specifically Christian based values and "traditional Christian best business practices") operationally when paired with leadership and proactive management competencies. And yes, those companies that have transformational leadership (the recognition that religious/spiritual values influence best business practices) and proactive management are both productive and economically competitive.

First of all the Mormon church does not own any part of Coke. That has been a rumor for many years. You hear it from someone and there it flys. Don't believe everything you hear.
Second you don't get kicked out if you don't give 10% tithing. Some people can't afford to give anything, sometimes they need to recieve rather than give. I give a fast offering once a month so someone else who needs will be able to recieve. I've been LDS for 41 years and I have never heard of flip flopping over Coffee. We don't talk about other churchs, why do other churchs try to talk us down? I also went to about 6 or 7 different churchs before I found the LDS church and I am very happy.
I believe Mitt Romney would be a great president.

i would like to ask the evangelicals this: do you remember when you killed my great-great-great-great grandfather for being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints? do you remember killing my ancestors? burning down our houses? our fields? do you remember refusing to help us because of our religion? you say that you love the consitution, what about the first amendment that states that there is a freedom of religion from persecution? what about that?
do you hate the fact that you cannot legally shoot us in the streets anymore and that missouri repealed that law not too long ago and made their public apology to the Church?
do you remember when you tarred and feathered Joseph Smith multiple times and killed most of his children by freezing them to death from the cold? do you remember when you refused to sell food and supplies to starving LDS people when they had the money to pay for it, thereby making their children starve to death? you say that it was racism when the irish and chinese werent allowed to do certain things, but those same things done to the irish you did to the mormons. have you ever walked through the cemetaries full of thousands of people that were killed by you and your evangelical people? do you remember that you killed joseph smith not just because he was mormon but because he was an abolitionist with over 10,000 followers? thats why you killed him. you didnt want an abolitionist in your midst, so you killed him. how does it feel to know that tiny children suffered and died because you refused to let them live in one place for more than a year at a time? because you ran them out of the country. and that wasnt it was it?! you went even farther. you harrassed us when we were in utah, through the government. so much for the most important commandment according to Christ: Love your fellow man.
what God do you follow i ask. if God is the same now and then, why would He tell your pastors to persecute the LDS people? and if your pastors dont know something, you dont know it either.

in regards to the temple and our "secrecy": there are sacred things within the temple that the jews did not allow non-jews to witness not because they were secret but because they were sacred. same with our temples. they are holy places, with holy ordinances done within them.

oh and stephen saw Christ with His Father and then was killed by stones, not by seeing God (acts 7:55-56,59). joseph smith died from the bullets, not from the sight of God.

also, mother theresa is talked about and taught about in our church. she is the best example of how to be god-like. we have great love and reverence for her. she is on the right hand of God for her good works, not her "blah-blah".

the only churches iwth true doctine are the catholics and us. you protestants, i mean "christians", also known as evangelicals are without unity because there are so many millions of you that you cannot and will never have complete unity. why? because your doctrine depends on the pastor, which you pay for. you pay for his mansion, his expensive cars, his bling bling lifestyle. is your pastor under investigation by the IRS?

why do you spend soo much money on ridiculous movies, media and literature about hating us if we arent worth it? why dont you make those same things about the catholics? is it because you feel threatened by us? why?
LDS Charities and Catholic Charities work hand in hand to solve the problem of poverty in our country and around the world. you should spend your money on that, instead of paying for your pastor's lavish lifestyle. there is just too much suffering in this world to be spending money on worthless things like anti-mormon media.

im not too sure that our evangelical president is working out too well right now. i think its time a Mormon person ran the country. someone that knows who he's praying to. someone that is not evangelical/racist.

from the heart of a strong, proud to be LDS, 16 year old girl.

I feel very strongly against Mitt Romney because I was raised a Mormon in Utah. The church has so many secrets and I don't like the fact that Romney is Mormon. There is alot of preferential treatment where they say they are so "family oriented" and take care of their own. That is IF you are active in the church. If you aren't, you are ignored or family will not have anything to do with you. It scares me to think of having a Mormon president knowing what I know about the church.

First of all, and in answer to the prompt- question as to the electability of a Mormon to the office of President, I say, somewhat idealistically, of course. There are currently 16 Mormons serving in the House and Senate on both sides of the aisle, some doing better jobs than others. Am I voting for Mitt Romney? No, but he has a right to be elected regardless of his religion. Personaly, I will probably throw my hat in for John Edwards, possibly Barrack Obama. (I would amend my former assertion to vote "no" for Romney only if he makes the R nomination and faces Hillary Clinton who I do not want in office even though I am a Democrat on most issues.) As to the 'fear of the Mormon faith' which is incited by many evangelical leaders, whose consortium constitutes the very powerful, far-right wing of the Republican party with all of its Rovian ways, is un-Christian at best and cold, calculating and dangerous in reality. One of the reasons I lost respect for Romney was that he compromised his integrity and standards by pandering to that Juggernaut that is dictating to the Republican right. Otherwise, I'd felt he was an excellent family man, an unsurpassed business man, a strong organizer for the Olympics and a decent Govenor who got a good job done on health-care and the buget, even being generous and compassionate on hot-button issues that possibly went contrary to his own, personal views. I thought he could do the same as a moderate President. But now I fear he would have to tow the party line as dilineated by the very people who are making his religion an issue in a land that was founded on freedom of religion. One of the highest tenets of the Mormon faith is that of free agency. The same should be upheld as the inspired Constitution provides. It will be a sad day should this land be governed as an out-and-out theocracy. It would be no different than the countries that we fear who are set-up by fundamental extremists of any other type of faith. We are almost there as it is and it is a scary proposition. This is the land of the free.(?) One of the things that is interesting about the Mormon church and politics is that in spite of the majority of members in Utah and Idaho robotically voting Republican mainly because of the issues of abortion and keeping marriage a religious institution between a man and a woman, they aren't doing it because their leaders are dictating how they should vote. The church leaders who are from the U.S. in the highest echelons of the church are of different party persuasions in spite of being united as spiritual leaders. There are no pamphlets for political parties in the chapels nor instructions from leaders over the pulpits, in their programs, seminaries/ institutes, church schools, lesson manuals, magazines or proselyting materials. The church buildings cannot be used for political meetings, either. This all in an effort to allow members to decide for themselves which issues are the most important to them and who they feel will represent their personal values. Many do ignore the broad picture and pipe-up or vote out of habit without considering all of the ramifications of a current party line. It's sometimes a toss up, that's for sure. But, that is one thing I appreciate about the church is the hands-off approach to mixing politics and religion when it comes to the individuals' right to choose. The Mormon church has contributed to causes through their business holdings funds that other churches support, as well, but the individual member would have to do a lot of outside research to even know what those business contributions have been. Most of the membership of the church is outside of the U.S., anyway, so wasting church time with political issues not perinent to all members would be ineffectual.

For the record, I converted to the "Mormon" church 31 years ago as a 21 year old. I was going to comment on the other question as to whether Mormons are Christians by simply saying, yes, I am a Christian. I believe that God, our Heavenly Father is the Father of all of our spirits, making all of us, literally, brothers and sisters. I believe that Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER IN THE FLESH, that He was born of Mary, in Bethlehem, that he lived and marked the path and led the way with the Gospel for our own lives, then somehow, suffered for our every pain, heartache, sin, weakness, illness or loss and atoned for us in Gethsemane, causing Him to bleed from every pore for the weight of it and died on the cross for ALL. He was resurrected on the third day and appeared to many before he ascended to our Father. He had other sheep, not of that fold (tribe), to whom he also appeared and ministered. I believe in the Holy Ghost that testifies of these things to me. I feel it in my own soul like a fire in my heart that wants to burst and flame when I share these things. I want to so live to reflect, in my daily walk, that light that burns in thankfulness for the bounty of this gift inside me made possible for and by my Savior, even Jesus Christ. All prophets in all ages are for one purpose, to testify of Jesus whether in preparation of His first coming or His return at the Second coming and to encourage His people to love all men/women; to provide for all of them physically and spritually; to never judge or exclude but to invite and make welcome; to be tolerant of all people and to know that all 12 tribes will be safely gathered in their time and order, as all are loved by the Father and the Son. And to those good men and women influenced by the Spirit, Christian or not, knowingly or not, that are directed to do good or to have prepatory faith of their own understanding which causes them to share hope, it all counts! It is all an expression of Love. And to the suffering and the wicked and the base, whose spirits are trapped inside of them by the ravages of their circumstances, bad decisions, injurious behaviors or indecencies, they are here to try and challange us and to be, hopefully, helped and lifted by those who know better and believe in a Savior that can atone for all, one day, because of a loving Heavenly Father who has provided a way to bring us all safely home. They are real, They are living and they know each and every one of us. I know it in the deepest part of me and I share it with any who care to know.

YES
a Mormon can be president

No different than the Kennedy's
And the debate on whether a Catholic
would ever be President

Separation of Church and State? All that means is that there will not be a "Government Run Religion" such as there is in countries like England or Ireland to name a couple. Remember that when our constitution was written most of the signers or their ancestors came from England/Europe where if you didn't believe the way the King/Queen believed you were persecuted or killed.

A person's personal religious beliefs should be just that! PERSONAL
Why is there no 'OUTCRY' about the religious beliefs of Hilary Clinton or Fred Thompson or any of the other canidates?

The Evangelicals that are pointing fingers at the Mormons are not following God's commandments and therefore are not (in my mind) good leaders!

The problem with a Mormon President is the close relationship between the Mormons & the Masons, a secret organization. Joseph Smith was a Mason as are most Mormon males. In my opinon this places Mitt Romney in a compromised position.

Most Mormon men are NOT Masons. My husband's family (7 males) and all of my friends and their families aren't or never have been Masons. Where do you get the numbers?

My family has been members of the Masonic Order for many generations and I am always appalled at the unrealistic view some people have of the organization.
I have been a member of first the Rainbow Girls and then the Order of the Eastern Star and my husband is a Mason. Here are some facts:

1. Any male can join the Masons including Catholic's. The Catholics put the restriction on themselves! All that male has to do is believe in a "Supreme Being" and be an upstanding member of the community and petition the lodge.
2. Anything you want to know about the beliefs of the Masonic Order can be found in the King James Bible. All the so called "secret work" of the Masons is in the Bible if you know what to look for.
3. Having a President who is a Mason is nothing new. Check our past President's histories and you will find 25 who were Masons. Namely George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe and Abraham Lincoln just to name a few.
4. The boys organization of the Masonic Order is the DeMolay which builds young men into stong men.

Before you start slamming an organization that you know absolutely nothing about I suggest that you get your facts straight first!!!

I am only concerned that Mitt Romney's 5 sons have NEVER served in the military. What is with that!? Surely the Utah National Guard or Reserve is an active supporter of the Iraq or Afghanistan campaigns. Where is this patriotic family?? NOWHERE.

Secret organizations such as the Masons are dangerous. It's true they do some good works but there is also a dark side. Current Masons are far different from Masons of old, in my opinion.

Ellen,
First off Mitt Romney was born in Michigan and lives in and was govenor of Massachusetts. Utah has nothing to do with him other than he went to college at Brigham Young University and he is a member of the LDS Church. See the link to Wikipedia.com that follows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

Secondly we no longer have the draft so it is no longer required for anyone's sons to be in the military although I feel everyone should serve for at least two years in one of the services. MALE & FEMALE! (Yes I did serve during the Vietnam War).
Mr Clinton never served our nation, in fact he was a draft dodger, yet we elected him to the highest office we have... so what is up with that??

I'm sorry this has degenerated into a discussion of religion. Listening to the speech, I didn't think that that was what Romney wanted to spark. But, reading "The Bible and Christianity are open to all, nothing is secret, yet much is sacred and reverent. " from Don I kind of can't stop myself from commenting. ALL old christian denominations have secrets. Secretiveness is part of ritual and ritual is mostly what religion is. The Catholics reveal information to priests and bishops and.. their very large religious (and political, technically) hierarchy, differently at different levels. Same for the Episcopalians and most other denominations that have been around for any time. I'm not commenting on LDS, just on Don Ss one sentence there.

Lived in and ran a business in Utah. People are nice,great...some not...as in any group of people. Mormons are not suppose to work on Sunday.(Romney needs too). Heavy judgement against you for having two children or less. The large familes (that physically overburden women (death) and cause financial stess are simply about increasing flock numbers and money for the church. There is heavy, immense pressure to conform to rules that are really manmade. All religious "rules"..dancing,drinking coffee or wine, wearing scarves, binding feet, anything that reaches beyond teaching love,kindness and care is simple man hurting man no matter what religion. And maybe that is why there is questions about Romney. Maybe we should not vote for a man that believes in a church that controls,limits,defines and restricts the lives of it's members because he doesn't understand the concept of Freedom.

As an evangelical Christian, I find it difficult to consider for Mr. Romeny for two reasons. First, his recent change in position regarding gay marriage and abortion. It's hard to believe these position changes are for real and not for expediency. Second, I know this will be hard for some to understand, but I sincerely believe (know) that Mormonism is a false religion. I love, work with and consider Mormons my friends, but I must speak the truth. Even though it uses Christian sounding terms and refers to Jesus and God, it is still false. Therefore, I am concerned the LDS church would use Mr. Romney's presidency as a platform to further their false religion. One's eternal destiny is much more important to me then the temporal issues surrounding Romney's presidency. I know some will consider my comments unloving, but please know that it is out of great and sincere love that I must speak the truth.

I would like to refer you to the following excerpt from Wikipedia.com about our Presidents and how they are "restrained" from ever taking over complete power..see below:

"The President of the United States of America (sometimes abbreviated as POTUS)[1] is the head of state and head of government of the United States. The president is at the head of the executive branch of the federal government, whose role is to enforce national law as given in the Constitution and written by Congress. Article Two of the Constitution establishes the president as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and enumerates powers specifically granted to the president, including the power to sign into law or veto bills passed by both houses of Congress. The president also has the power to create a Cabinet of advisors and to grant pardons or reprieves. Finally, with the "advice and consent" of the Senate, to make treaties, appoint federal officers, ambassadors, and federal judges, including Justices of the Supreme Court. As with officials in the other branches of the United States government, the Constitution restrains the president with a set of checks and balances designed to prevent any individual or group from taking absolute power."

Also another except from the same source says this:
"Qualifications:
Article Two of the Constitution sets the qualifications required to become president.
Presidents must be:
Natural-born citizens of the United States
At least thirty-five years old
Must have been resident in the United States for at least fourteen years"

Nowhere in that statement do I see a qualification that states this person must be an "EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN". What would this country do if Joseph Liberman was running for President? He is Jewish!

Come on people! We need a political leader in office who has the ability to lead the country in these difficult times not a RELIGIOUS LEADER! Leave the religion to the Pastors, Priests, Elders and Rabbi's.

Religous & political differences aside,if Mitt Romney is elected as President of the United States it would be nothing short of a true miracle. And as such I would do my best to support him while in office.

No one has stated the mormon if good enough becomes his own God, if this hapens will Gov. Romney do this and dissappear? Write to Saints Alive Issaqua Wa.
The people of the accepted non-cultic christian belivers considered the Mormon a satanic religion so we would hesitate to vote a cult man into ruling us.

I come from a Methodist family. But now, I know that the Mormon Temple is for Mormons only and it is a special, OPTIONAL place for Mormons to exercise their faith.
However, Mormons WANT you to visit their REGULAR Churches and to learn of their faith there. If you believe the Mormon's enhanced version of the Gospel, you can join the Church, be Baptised, and after a trial-period YOU, TOO CAN ATTEND THE TEMPLE, JUST LIKE YOUR MORMON FRIENDS!

Sadie,

Masons don't tell others that they are Masons only other Masons. That's why it's a secret organization. This may include members of your family.

Joseph Smith was a Mason & based the Mormon Church on Mason rituals & practces. That's why it may seem strange to outsiders.

If you want to advance within the Morman Church you must be a Mason. There are many good books on the Masons & their history if you wish to know more.

Roland,

You are up in the night. Though a few Mormons might be masons too, there is NO requirement to be a mason no one I know is. George Washington and probably most of the founding fathers and early presidents were Masons. There is a famous painting with George in his masonic apron with all the symbols. So much for secrecy.

Mitt Romney, not a Mason, is intelligent, moral, an expert in business etc. He took on a Massachussetts burdened by a negative of $300B dollars and left only four years later with the deficit gone and a surplus instead. Just think if he can do the same for the United States with his business accumen.

His family is just the refreshing face of a functional family this country needs as an example. Ann is lovely and well spoken. The five sons are all successful in their own right and have lovely wives and children.

There is nothing wrong with this picture except for bigotry and prejudice--the darkest emotions of human passion--tinged I fear with a goodly dose of jealousy.

We should have someone better than ourselves to lead and that ain't Bible Belt Bigot and Huckster (check the ethics violations) Huckabee! Did I mention he is soft on criminals like illegal alians and released murderers and rapists to do it again! He paroled more than several states around him combined.

Romney pardoned no one! He did not condone illegal aliens.

Huckabee raised taxes from $6 M to $16 M in his tenure--that ain't no fiscal conservative.

A liberal in pastor's clothing.

Get over your petty prejudice and do what is best for the country. This man can handle foreign policy with dignity and aplomb. Can you really see "Aw Garsh" Huck dealing with elites of European, Russian or Middle Eastern lands. We will again be the laughing stock of the world like we were when the other Arkansas Governor--Clinton was in charge.

John Adams' words: 'We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion... Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people.' Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom.

JOHN ADAMS (PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES)'Try looking this uo in the history books before you shoot your pie hole off. No Excuse for stupidity DEMS of KING CO.

'We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion... Our constitution was made for a moral and religious people.' Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom.

For a candidate to earn my vote I must be able to trust and support him/her. We must have similar worldviews. And, if there is a God, then God is the source of all truth. And if God has revealed Himself through the Bible,(and of course I believe it is so, the evidence is overwhelming), then my candidate must also look for truth in the Bible. Truth and life are found in the Bible. God has inspired it for our good. Is it wise to ignore the Creator's instructions? Would you attempt to operate a complicated piece of machinery without reading the instruction book first?
The LDS church teaches the Bible is full of errors and not trustworthy when it conflicts with the Book of Mormon. Therefore, I cannot vote for a Mormon, atheist or anyone else who does not recognize that truth and morals come from God and His Holy Word, the Bible, and not from man or a book pretending to be from God. Is it hatred or bigory to seek and want the truth, the best for this country and a president that honors God and seeks wisdom and guidance from His Word?

Marie,

Unfortunately you missed my posting of 12-12-07 8:41PM. If it is God's Will to have Mr. Romney elected then it will happen. However it appears He has turned his back on America.

I just feel uncomortable with the Masons & Mormons being so closely intertwined & their secrecy. Secrecy & the Presidency of the United States is simply unacceptable, in my opinion.

Great Blog! What if Mitt is elected President and then starts forcing people to be mormon? Yikes! We better elect someone else!

No, if Romney is a mormon he shouldn't and cannot hold public office anywhere but Utah in this country. The beliefs, teachings and sacred instructions found in mormonism fully undermines the individual rights set down by the Constitution of the United States and federal laws placed to protect those rights. Romney with his mormon beliefs would not be in support of the Constitution. No matter how mormons alter their beliefs, it's always been that way and always will be. To avoid civil and federal prosecution Utah was given to the mormons to thrive and prosper in. If you have to be a mormon go there and stay there. Don't impose that desease on the rest of us. If Romney wants to get along with the rest of us and run for public office, sign up for the military, maybe smoke a cigarette, drink a beer while he's watching a football game and even drink a morning coffee.... he would have to declare he was whats called a "jack" mormon. He could go to his ward, pay his tithings and maintain some sort of moral belief and social protection. But, he could never attain any kind of "level" in heaven. No where in any Christian belief are there levels of attainment in heaven. No, blacks are not allowed in heaven in the mormon belief. Women are nothing but instruments of reproduction and do not reach a high level in heaven as a male, fair skinned, blue eyed elder. Sound familar to anyone? Are mormons constructing the perfect race? Of course they are. To gain power and control as their own government. That government shouldn't be really allowed to exist under the goverment in this country. They have been given Utah. If your mormon go there and stay there. Joseph Smith was not shot by a white man. I can't remember the creek where he was shot dead by three Indian arrows. Those three arrow holes are represented by three embroidered holes found in the blessed "sacred" underwear mormons wear. The mormons didn't get along with the Indians. The mormons tried to settle in Mexico. The Mexicans got wind of what mormon was and kicked them out. Who can't get along with a Mexican? 12 million have melted into this country and nobody even saw it happen. I've witnessed first hand the high numbers of child abuse with mormons. Have seen first hand all the mental retardation and crippling from inbreeding. I've gone to school with kids from polygynous families. Yes, a ward will punish someone who doesn't pay their tithe by making them pay the wards gas or electric bill. UP&L makes them pay. I would keep a wary eye on any mormon in the health care field. A highly publicized incident in Nevada where in the name of mormon a man decided to try to spread a serious pathogen on the public. Promoting a perfect race? I've seen first hand in Seattle where doctors refuse to properly isolate, fully identify, refuse to find out what works and that denies a proper treatment on some seriously evolved pathogenics. And if they do catch something in culture refuse to disclose. Doing this is nothing but a pure form of bio-terrorism. Are we going to have to check the beliefs of every nurse and doctor out there? Unless Romney is "jack", he can't be president. But then he won't go to heaven.

I am a Mormon and will not vote for Mitt Romney simply because he is not the best choice for this America at this time. RON PAUL is the only candidate that will really stand up for the constiution and that is what America needs.

mormons in politics is not gods way. God says all these things shall come to pass, therefore anyone in politics having a religious viewpoint and active in government fights against the commandments of god, so buddy is doing a work of the flesh and not a work of god. Like most mormons they have no actual connection to god and they do what they want, workiing the works of flesh and not of spirit.

While I believe what many have said that a man's religion should not decide his electability, I do believe there is one key point to the Mormon religion that people must understand. Not only do they believe that Joseph Smith obtained additional scripture in the 1800's, but they believe that the teachings of the current day "prophets" or leader of the church should also be treated as scripture. Therefore, his declaration that the leaders of the church would not influence him is in itself contradictory to his own religious beliefs. His religious beliefs are that the words of the leaders of his church are God's word. I fail to see how he could be a faithful Mormon and not be influenced by the things said by the Mormon religious leaders.

Why can't people understand that bashing someone for their religon is just showing that they are just going by heresay and by the distorted view of those who don't know. Please remember we are all Gods children and should be treated as such. Vote for who you want based on the factual values of the person not by what others say. At this point, I have no idea who I will vote for but believe me, I will research each one before I vote.

I grew up around a Mormon community. I am not a Mormon nor did I ever consider switching to their religion. I don't know how the religion would affect a President and won’t pretend to. I will say that the people I grew up with were good people. They were one of the many influences in my life that I hold in the highest regards. Their community, beliefs and way of life was very influential to me and taught me to, in the face of any adversity, hold true to my own teachings and be a righteous man. It saddens me to see some of these comments that lash out at the people I loved and admired. It’s a necessary evil of the first amendment but still it grieves me to see harsh words directed at respectable people. I guess this post is not directly commenting on the discussion at hand but I thought that I would put into perspective what most people should already know on some level. We are fortunate to have the Mormon communities that exist in and around Washington. In my opinion they are a positive addition to our neighborhoods.

Romney is a complete nutcase. I simply cannot take anyone seriously if they belong to a cult that was invented less than 200 years ago to promote polygamy. Religion itself is increasingly irrelevant to the lives of modern people. The further we get away from religion, the tighter the fringes will cling to their pet beliefs. I cannot respect nor advocate for elected office anyone who is foolish enough to hold such beliefs. Mr. Romney's comments quoted above are a distortion of the beliefs of our founding fathers, and are a feeble attempt at justifying his personal desire for a theocracy. Our government was deliberately created secular, and is not married to religion as Mr. Romney suggests. He needs to study his history if he thinks that our country's founders intended to inextricably link the two. Anyone foolish enough to believe in the utterly laughable legend at the center of Mormonism is clearly not capable of the level of judgment that we should require from our President. "All religion is bunk." - Thomas Edison

A majority of what I am hearing here, IE; masons and mormons, "secret" temple,"mormons becoming Gods and ruling their own planet" (I got a big laugh out of that one)and Romney and the Mormons not respecting the constitution.These are simply individuals made up assumptions and accusations that are simply not true. And to the individual(s) that think that a Mormon president would convert all to Mormonism and would make everyone follow his religion is just plain ridiculous. First of all there is no connection or affiliation between mormons and masons, second- no one is going to be a God ruling their own planet. However one can try to be like God the Father through their actions and the way that they treat others. The only reason that people judge the temple by calling it "secret" is because they have not personally been there and do not understand the things that take place in the temple are the same sacred ordinances that took place in Christ's temples in his day.As far as the religious beliefs of others. The Mormon's beliefs include respecting others religious beliefs and allowing all men to worship how where or what they may.So no Mitt wont make you join his church.Another mormon belief includes honoring obeying and sustaining the law.So yes, he respects the constitution and the laws of this country. Oh and for the person that made the comment about members having more than 2 children,the church does not dictate how many children members are to have. Members of the church simply tend to have big families because unlike alot of people, Mormons simply enjoy their children and value their families.And the most important and valuable thing one can posess is family.Yes, I believe that Mitt Romney would be a great candidate not because of his religious beliefs but because of his morals. So anyone out there calling themselves a Christian but judging anothers religious beliefs, you need to re evaluate your title as a Christian.

If religion and politics don't matter, then would you be OK with having a Satan Worshipper for President? I think not. It does matter and I for one want a born-again Christian running our country. There is a reason that Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons and many other CULTS are on a list of cults. There are many, many Christian churches and they all agree on what is a cult and what is not. If you are on the list of cults, perhaps you should really try and figure out why. Bottom line: if you don't ask Jesus to be your Lord and Savior, to come into your life, you are not going to Heaven. The King James Bible has been THE bible to follow, it's very clear.

IF I'm wrong? So what, then I die and go in the ground. BUT WHAT IF I AM? Where are you going? Where is Romney going? I don't want him leading us down the innocent path of wrong.

And by the way....I do not think Romney is a "bad" guy. I simply think he's been wronged by whomever led him to the Mormon church. When judgment day comes, there will be VERY kind, gentle and loving people left behind that will think "but I did so much good" or "look how much I "served" for God". In the end all that matters is what I said above. God can be in many Christian organizations. But when men start messing with the Bible and thinking they've received a revelation that differs, the Bible says that is dead wrong. Even when it sounds good.

I love that attitude of "I'm gonna be a believer - just in case!" How dumb is that? So let's say I am a Eskimo living in the 1600's and I have never heard of Jesus and therefore I would never even think of "accepting him as my Lord and Savior" - that means no ticket to Heaven for me? It's all such flawed logic. Christianity, Mormonism, Scientology...it's all fantasy land for me. And anyone who is running for President who purports to rely heavily on their religion ain't getting my vote.

My issue is this... the government decided long ago to separate church and state, so why do we care what your faith or religious preference is? That should have nothing to do with how well you can run this country.

Hey Tom,
Not to cause any contention here but seriously
Speaking of Medical field. Go find a good psychiatrist that will bring you back to reality. Every part of your blog comment was so out there that only someone with mental health issues or someone who is extremely confused and misinformed could come up with a load of fertilizer such as every word that was found in your comments. Nothing that you have "learned" or have "heard" or believe which you spoke about in your comments is even remotely true. Please learn the facts. I have never seen such outlandish info in my entire life.

kristi, The whole contention is that mormons want to be governed by their religion or under mormon doctrine and not to protect or support the Constitution. If Romney is elected he is going to have to swear to oath to uphold, protect and serve under the Constitution. That is why the question was asked to begin with..... Can a mormon be elected president. One of the big problems I see here is that mormonism in Washington state is a very watered down version to what mormonism is in Salt Lake City. If Romney is going to be true-blue to his faith he can't be elected president. If he is elected to the presidency and supports the Constitution, he can't adhere to mormon doctrine. There is no separation of church and state under mormonism. So, what's Romney going to do if he's elected president? Is he going to compromise his faith (mormons who are less than ideal are called "jack mormons") or is he going to compromise the presidency? Really and truely kristi.... "real" mormons are totally outlandish.

I have been reading this blog and cannot believe how Many IDIOTS there area in WA. and the rest of our country. If you really study and understand the Constitution you would know that it is a God inspired document. Washington is the state with the fewest church going residents. It's no wonder to me that ya'll cannot understand the true meaning and purpose of the Constitution. Our freedoms have been and still are being whittled away by our Socialist Government. We should not be debating whether a Mormon, Catholic, Baptist or any else of faith could or should become President of our Country. The question we should be asking is will this candidate uphold the constitution and restore the freedoms that we have lost. If we do not ask this question we will lose all of our freedoms and become ruled by some New World Government. That is what main stream Democrats and Republicans area working for and We as Americans can't even see it. WAKE UP AMERICA. Look around and look at all of the freedoms we have lost in the last half century. How many people in King County lost the use of their property when the CAO was passed a few years ago? Little things like this are lost freedoms but we all seem to take it in stride. Why area we paying nearly 50% of our income in taxes of one kind or another? We need to stand up and fight for our Constitutional rights and stop the Government from eroding our rights given to us by the God inspired Constitution.

I personally think that anyone should be allowed to be president. Who cares if they are married to more than one person - man or women. It would be great to have a president who is a man married to 8 other men and maybe one or two of them are married to more than one women and fooling around on the side.

Who really cares?

They have good backgrounds and will do a good job for the country as long as they stay away from children like the Catholics do.

I have 6 boyfreidns - I don't let them know but I am always busy and would like to be elected president.

The first hispanic gay man as president - open minded.

Let me know if you would elect me for president!!!


Of course! a person should be elected because of his Religion for how can a nation endure without a wise Leader? Wisdom comes from God. If our Leader is not inspired by God our Nation will not endure. As we approach the End of Ends we had better begin to put first things first. Which candidate can lead this Country by Christian principles? Our great President, Ronald Reagan, told us who he would advocate and that is Duncan Hunter.

Do you want someone who believes in this cult info to have their finger on the launch of atomic weapons? Read what they actually believe in... jeesh

http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

Joe Fuiton is Mike Huckabee's state campaign chair.

Robert, Joe played you.

Just like the pastors in Iowa and South Carolina are using bigotry to stir up and foment sectarian strife in a method to use bigotry to destroy a very good man and, in the process, kick mormons out of the GOP.

stopbigots.com

Strange there is no mention of Mr. Obama in this story. A follower of a religion bent on killing us all. Very peculiar.

Gary,
You need to do some research dude...Barrack Obama is an AFRICAN (Kenyan) name. He IS NOT A MUSLIM! He is Christian...
And to think that there are actually people like you who vote!

Everyone seems to pick on A select few running for office.They pick out what they think is interesting and run with it.
I would be very careful of Obama-no one is asking him about his Muslin beliefs?? He did not use the Bible for his swaring in? He doesn't salute the American flag??He turns his back to the flag during the Pledge of alegance and slumps his
shoulders? I think you should all be afraid of His getting into Our government with his influences. If you want to pick religions apart go over to Iraq


Those of you who think Obama is Muslim, go look at his site! He is NOT a Muslim! Do your research before you spout untruths!

"There is a concerted effort by top tier Democratic presidential candidates to reach out to religious voters. Barack Obama has a pretty neat campaign site dedicated to faith only. It’s called “Faith, Action, Change” and basically if you go to the site you can read more about what Obama believes when it comes to his Christian faith. Plus, there are great articles about his spiritual journey and videos of past speeches on his faith."

Obama does have a Muslim background & did attend a Wahabi school in Jakarta. But he also attended a Catholic school for 2 years. He has joined the United Church of Christ to become politically acceptable. When sworn into office he used the Koran & not the Bible. He will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Of all the candidates he is the most radical.

Paranoia is alive and well.

Kris,
The facts are the facts. I'm sure we'll all be hearing much more about Obama's background in the future. Please note I never said the information was good or bad.

Fearmongering is never a good tactic Roland.

Kris,
Simply stating the facts is neither fearmongering or paranoia. However, if you feel it is please explain.

Someone implied that his conversion to Christianity is a front and if he is elected, he will change back to being a Muslim and put all of his Muslim friends in positions of power...THAT is fear mongering.

We elected the first Catholic president didn't we? Mitt Romney appears to be a qualified candidate and to all those who fear his being a Mormon...I don't believe he has multiple wives or twenty-six children that he will drag along to the White House if elected! Give religion a break.

No, I think that Mormonism is border line cult religion. I don't agree with presidents being affiliated with secret societies either. I say no to Skull and Bones and No to Mormonism and No to CFR.

Let's look at the person and not his religion. I think high morale character is important and having the faith in prayer. It would comfort me having a President who, in time of trials and tribulations is capable to get down on this knees and ask God for direction and his blessing upon our country . . . And, the person will have faith that God will hear and answer his pleas. What's wrong with having faith in God?

Thank you owens for bringing back sense into this blog. The constitution was and is a document based on religion. I find it interesting that so much attention is being brought to Romney for being LDS and hardly any to the others who are running for their beliefs. This blog has gotten into discusions on Masonry, Muslums, cults and tons of other things. Most LDS men are not Masons. I feel comfortable with Romney for pres. because of his values and his experience. His religion is HIS religion and he is not going to force it on anyone is this country if he becomes pres.

Mitt Romney is the most qualified person.

He did not cheat on his wife (like John McCain who abandoned his wife and kids and ran off with his multi-millionaire mistress).

He has been a success his entire life. I want someone who will create an economic engine, will help America regain its top spot in innovation, in job creation and opportunity.

Obama and Clinton both want the government to be in charge. Mitt wants the people to be in charge of their future. McCain? He, like Clinton and Obama has never run a business, does not know or understand what it takes and the impact on the family by having no business future.

Mitt is presidential.

Ultimately we just need a President who will be able to view every citizen of our country as an equal. I have always heard that Mormons believe a woman's place is in the home and a woman can never become a "god" of their own planet and will never be equal to a man. Is this true? If so, then Romney has just lost my vote as an ivy league educated, successful woman who has a stay at home husband. How can I vote for a candidate who believes I belong to a secondary class of people? I'd love to have someone reply with a quote from the Book of Mormon, proving to me that they do not believe it is my job to sta