"We knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well," Coach Holmgren said at the homecoming rally. But the NFL has a history of fining coaches for publicly criticizing the refs, and Holmgren may have to pay up for stating a simple fact. "I think that's going to cost a few dollars," says former Seahawk Brock Huard.
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Don Alldredge said:
Holmgren was right on the money. The Officials were awful. I thinks the NFL should be investigated. Reminds me of the old days in boxing. Somebody got paid off.
AKHAWKFAN said:
Hey, they already f*cked him, so why not fine him too???
Go HAWKS!!
Steeler in hawkland said:
As a Steeler fan living in Seahawk country, I can emphasize with how everyone is feeling. Was the officiating bad? For the most part no; but for a few calls yes, it was. Even with the three or four questionable calls, the Seahawks failed to execute when they had opportunities. All season long Seattle’s “chink” in their armor was Special Team play. It really came to light Sunday.
Josh Brown had a horrible game, period. Two missed field goals that are well within his range (especially in a dome). Both should have been made. The punter and punt coverage guys were not in the game mentally. There had four opportunities to pin Pittsburgh deep (inside the 10 yard line) in their own territory, and he kicked every one of those four into the end zone, or the coverage team failed to down the ball. So much for “coffin corner”.
Great players, Hall of Fame Players, know where they are and where they need to be on the field during the “big game”, Darrell Jackson fell far short of that standard. Yes, a questionable call on pass interference, but he met the minimal criteria for the official to toss the flag. More importantly, Darrel missed a TD bomb (first half) because he didn’t know where he was on the field. He got his left foot down in bounds, but failed to get his right foot on the end zone front pylon.
Then we have Jeremy Stevens don’t we. Enough said? I think so (so would he by the way).
Do I need to address Hasselback’s clock management skills? I was very nervous when Seattle got the ball with 2 minutes left in the game. Memories of the Dallas collapse in Seattle came screaming back. There was so much time wasted by the lack of urgency. During the last 2 minutes Seattle literally gave the game away without a real fight. Mentally they were through; the Jurevicius catch deep up the middle was like bringing a patient back to life in the ER, and then the subsequent four plays you simply sat back and watched the patient die on the table.
Does it hurt to watch a team do that, yes it does. It really stinks that Seattle was the better team outside of the “Red Zone” and wasted opportunities to win the war. They are not a bad team; both have the potential to be great teams, but they both played like rookie teams at the big dance.
So where do you go from here? I know instant replay on each call the refs make, to be reviewed by the head office? Hmmmm......that should push the average game time to say four to five hours. That will make all the concessioniers happy, but not their fans.
Stephanie N said:
I, like thousands of others, was enormously disappointed in the Superbowl. I have no problem being beaten and losing. However I have a huge problem with not even getting a chance to win. Did the Seahawks play their best? No!. Did the Steelers play their best? No!. Of those two teams, did the team who played a better game win? No!. I believe that the two teams should only have to deal with each other NOT have to also deal with the officials as well.
I support Mike Holmgren in his frustration and his speaking out. If he gets fined, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and donate money to help pay the fine. I'm sure that many others will join me in this.
I applaud your sticking up for your players Mike.
Way to go!
Just hearing Mike tell it like it was yesterday was so refreshing. I want to stand by him. This is one way all of us can help clean up the game. http://sayitloudmike.bravehost.com/
steelerfaninthe west said:
The Seahawks and Holmgren are lucky that the Steelers played their second worst game of the season (the first Colts game was the worst) and even gave Seattle a chance to be in the game. Otherwise it would have been a complete rout. The officiating in no way decided the outcome of this game. It wasn't like Seattle didn't commit the penalties that were called whether you think they were ticky-tacky or not. I think Seattle fans were just grasping for whatever hope they could and were devastated when a big play was called back when one of their players made an undisciplined mistake. Mistakes and penalties are part of the game. Always have been and always will be. Get over it, accept defeat, and give credit to the Champions. The best team definitely won!
Brian from Tri-Cities said:
I applaud Mike Holmgren for speaking out the way he did. Way to go, Mike. Rest assured, we Seahawks fans feel the same way you do. I think it's dumb that the league might be fining Holmgren (whatever happened to freedom of speech?) The people the league should be fining are the officiating crew. In fact, I wouldn't mind it one bit if they all were locked away in a federal pen for life.
Oh, hey Seacrocks, good riddance to us? Well, rest assured, pal, the feeling is mutual!
Hawk Fan said:
Hey seacrock, Did you watch the game? If you could not see how badly the Steelers were from our mighty Hawks. If you don't think those were bad calls then you are a blind as those referees. Your team name STEELERS suits you well. Would not want the BUS lose in his home town now would they, that would not be right. GO HAWKS YOU WERE AWESOME AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS MIKE...GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE SEACROCK....
Unknown said:
Hey Seacrocks, SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!! "even your coach is a sore loser." That tells me you not a Seattle fan. Get out of the Seattle Boards!
Hawk Fan said:
YOUR A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE SEACROCK. I HATE TO HAVE YOU AS A FRIEND YOU WOULD PROBABLY ROB ME BLIND LIKE THE REFS DID TO THE MIGHTY HAWKS. I THINK YOU WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR TEAM THAT GOT ROBBED SO WHY DON'T YOU SHOVE IT.
victoria terpin said:
If I were a stealers' fan (which thank goodness I am not) I think I would have switched to another team as of last Sunday. To think that those guys will have a parade and all the celebrations that come from being a true winner, is unbelievable!!! How could they, in all honesty acknowledge beeing the winners? I think the trophy has just been given to them for no reason whatsoever...Those people that think that the Seahaws fans are crying don't understand that we would not be complaining if those "zebras" had officiated by the rules. There were no rules and PERIOD! They used their own...Perhaps there was some monetary incentive for doing so! There had to have been a problem when people from all over the country are commenting on the Seahawks being robbed! I stand behind Mr. Holmgren 100%. Perhaps it is time to look into the qualifications of the president of the NFL, as well, not just the qualifications of the "zebras".
Cindy said:
To all you Steeler Fans. For one second put yourself in our shoes. Remember your game against Denver. Wah, Wah Wah about a call that was not ruled an interception as it should have been. And at least that call didn't change the ourcome of the game.
This game has impacted all of football not just the Seahawks or the Steelers. That is why people all over the country who are not Steeler or Seahawks fans are crying foul. You had the final score, you have the ring but do you have the integrity to stand up and say we want fair, unbiased refereeing of games? If you don't then next year, when it happens to you don't think we will shed any tears for the "poor Steelers."
And just as a final comment...apprears that Big Ben admitted on Letterman that he did not cross the goal line for the touchdown. Now you may say oh well, they would have taken it in on fourth down. But...you have to admit that there could have been a turnover, a fumble ala Bettis or we could have just held them. We will never know because it was taken out of our teams hands.
So go ahead Steeler fans...rant at us, call us poor losers but if you really care about football and a "great legacy" you will join all the teams and fans everywhere and step up to the plate to make sure that every game is refereed fairly and witout the appearance of any bias.
Brian from Tri-Cities said:
I probably should clarify for the record that my comment to Seacrocks posted above should be taken that if he is saying good riddance to the Seahawks, then us Seahawk fans should be able to say good riddance to him. Just wanted to clarify that in case anyone thinks I'm turning my back on the Seahawks. Believe me, I am not, I couldn't be any more proud of them. They had one heck of a season, and will be back next year. I will go to my grave being a Seahawks fan.
AKHAWKFAN said:
Hey Seacrocks.... Isn't time for you to get your lunch and catch the short yellow bus to school?
So, you're not a "squeelers" fan... by your infantile language, I'm guessing that you're a Patriots fan..... but I could be wrong. Doesn't really matter, you've proven yourself to be a complete and utter idiot. Keep posting... it gives us all something to laugh at, and we need that right now.
GO HAWKS!!!
steelerfaninthe west said:
ok Seattle fans, let's have the perfect game so that your team's mistakes won't hurt them. No Offensive pass interference on Seattle, therefore a TD (but only 4 extra points because they got a FG anyway). Big Ben isn't in for a TD. Even though Pgh would have scored a TD anyway because they would have been on the 1 millimeter line and still had another down, let's assume Pgh kicked a FG, so take 4 points off of their score. Do we need to take the holding penalties away also since obviously Seattle fans think no penalties should have been called on their team. Take all this, and Pgh still wins. What's your excuse now Mike Holmgren and the Seattle whiners? Have some class. True champions don't blame others for their shortcomings. They accept the outcome, become stronger, and come back next year ready to do battle again. Seattle plays in the weak NFC and couldn't have beat Cincy, Indy, or Denver. They should have been honored to be on the same field with the mighty Steelers. Everyone outside of Seattle knows The real Super Bowl was actually played in Indianapolis weeks before!!
AKHAWKFAN said:
steelerfaninthewest - Last time I checked, other than one comment from Mike Holmgren, our "team" isn't whining, in fact they are all saying that they came up short and didn't play as well as they could/should have. The fans are bitching and comlaining about the officiating, which we have every right to do. If you don't like it, don't read it. No one is forcing you to come to this website.
GO HAWKS!!!
Cheese Head said:
Too bad Seattle is not closer to Green Bay...
We could have some cheese with all this great wine.....
A HA HA HA HA
Chris said:
If they fine Holmgren for his barb in jest, then they should fine Joey Porter double for his comments after the Indy playoff game. Otherwise, the NFL is a hyprocite and I think frankly they would like this all to go away quickly and quietly.
Jenny said:
Somebody please address the story going around about the two coaches not shaking hands at the end of them game. I've seen it on some blogs. Calling Holmgren a sore loser. But that is a bunch of crap. Thank
steelerfaninthewest said:
I just get a kick out of seeing how much the Seattle fans are working themselves up over this. They just can't believe their team lost to a better team so they are trying to find any reason they can to explain it. The trophy is where it belongs, in Pittsburgh. You know, the Steelers could have left the field at halftime and given Seattle's Offense four more plays against nothing but air, and Seattle still wouldn't have scored because they would have ran out of time :-)
steelerfaninthewest said:
Holmgren said he couldn't find Cowher after the game (how hard is that? go to the 50 yd line like every other game). But reports say he did go to the Steeler locker room after the game to congratulate Cowher (away from the National Media). Form your own opinion!!!
Cindy said:
Steelerfaninthewest: This is not just Seattle fans working themselves up the uproar is in Denver, Miami, Chicago and all places outside a radius of 200 miles of Pittsburg and Detroit. This is about sports analyists from around the conutry INCLUDING those who were behind Pittsburg saying that this was the worst debacle they had seen. So wise up...this is not all about Seattle sour grapes. This is about people who love football and want to see a good contest that is fairly played. This is about making sure ALL teams have the benefit of the best in terms of a referee.
And you seacrock....I have been watching football, professional, college and highschool games for over 43 years. DON'T call me a newby to the game...I have seen EVERY Superbowl!!!! and although I have seen many, many bad calls over the years I have NEVER seen the tempo and momentum of a game so dictated by the guys in stripes!!!! EVER. So go away you troll...find someone who wants to listen to YOUR sour grapes that we should all bow and scrape to the great Steelers... They won the superbowl, they have the ring but obviously their fans are ignorant and stupid if they think their team won this one by themselves. We will never, ever truly know who would have won because of the bad calls.
Steelerfaninthewest said:
Cindy: Since you have been around so long and know so much then you must know that there have been 39 losing teams in the Super Bowl before Seattle. Fans, players, Coaches, and everyone involved with these losing teams all felt the same devestation that Seahawk fans, players, and coaches must be feeling. The difference is that these 39 losing teams all accepted defeat gracefully. Seattle is a discrace to the NFL community for the way they are carrying on accepting their defeat.
steve said:
steelerfaninthewest I have not heard of any seahawks fans assaulting pittsburgh fans before during or after the game. but today I read an article about a man in a steeler pullover assaulting a man in a seahawks jersey at a grocery store on Sunday following the game, according to the story the steeler fan was basically rubbing the steeler win in the other mans face and when he did not receive the response he expected he physically assaulted the man in front of his wife. I guess I would rather be referred to as a poor loser than a steeler fan after that display.
Steelerfaninthewest said:
Steve: That's a real convincing argument. You definitely changed my mind with that story
steve said:
was not intending to change your mind, I was just curious why he felt he had to go prove his dominance over this other person.
Steelerfaninthewest said:
Steve: probably the result of beer!
MAC said:
Can you say, "Grand jury investigation of NFL is warranted!"??? Where is former attorney general Gregoire's fire when we need it?
Hawk Fan said:
You know you people who don't live in our great city of seattle, and are writing on this blog about how whiny we are, we are not whining we are trying to get a point across. The Super Bowl is supposed to be highlight of the football season, and the best team in there should win. Can you honestly tell me that Pittsburgh was better all around than Seattle. Sure we made alot of mistakes later on, but wouldn't you if that were you out there and having all these bad call against your team. They were fustrated and I do not blame them. Wouldn't you be fustrated if that happened to you at your job. SO GET OFF OUR BACKS!
Seahawks had the best year ever. The Refs did not make the Super Bowl what it is supposed to be.
They made a huge joke of it, why even have a Super Bowl if we can't get some good referees and have it be a fair event to watch. YOU PEOPLE CUTTING DOWN US IN SEATTLE AND OUR TEAM, HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS TO HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST IN YOUR TOWN. How can you guys even feel good about that win, I no I could not. SO WHATEVER TO ALL OF YOU LOSERS NOT IN SEATTLE.
sorry steelers, you suck again said:
sorry you can't accept that the Seahawks are better Steelers fans, and i'm sorry your team honestly played horrible. It looks like you guys will never learn that being the best means at one point you have to be the worst. Seattle was bad ten years ago. But now they are the best there is. Sadly the Steelers are the complete opposite. They don't belong in the NFC because they aren't good enough, because the fact is NFC is actually better. Yes, it's true. sorry steelers fans, go to hell.
seattle actually won, sorry said:
Sadly, the Steelers are the losers of the Superbowl, they know it. Despite the fact Seattle played poorly in some aspects of the game, the Steelers fell short of that which we expect in a highschool varsity team. Roethlesberger sucked horribly. Please Steelers, i know it's hard for you to accept, but the truth is, Seattle is better than you. Accept is please. May I suggest a psychiatrist?
Vote yes on initiative 12321, the Trophy belongs to the Seahawks
hello losers said:
sorry steelers, you suck again: The NFC is better than the AFC???? How many Super Bowls has the NFC won in the last 10 years. What was the NFC's record against AFC teams this year. Seattle couldn't have beat the AFC teams that didn't even make the playoffs this year. Obvously this is from some band wagon Seattle fan that knows very little about football.
Hawk Fan: Yes I can honestly say Pittsburgh is better than Seattle. Pittsburgh played their worst game of the year against Seattle and still beat them. Imagine what the score would have been if the Steelers played even 50% of what they are capable of. But I don't blame you for being angry and looking to blame the loss on the Ref's. If I were a Seahawk fan I would be so shell-shocked at what happened to my team (that I thought was actually Super Bowl material)that I would have to find something to blame it on. We won, you lost. Cry on!!!!!!!!!
Offsides of a Steeler while Locklear is flagged for a hold, delay of game but a time out is granted AFTER the play clock shows 0, chop block flagged while Hasselbeck getting OFFICIAL credit for making a tackle, WOW! There is now more predictibility of an outcome in the NFL than in the WWF or Roller Derby! I can't wait to see any of those clowns do a game in Seattle! Should be a very warm reception indeed. The NFL has had problems for years. The instant replay was instituted as a stop-gap measure to correct referee incompetence. Do we see IR in any other professional sport to the extent of the NFL?
Just hearing Mike tell it like it was yesterday was so refreshing. I want to stand by him. This is one way all of us can help clean up the game. http://sayitloudmike.bravehost.com/
dodonfred said:
Holmgren should be fined -- for his poor coaching.
Why did he stop running the ball?
Why did he stop running the short out routes?
Why did he squander the clock at the end of both halves?
When the Steelers faced bad calls in Indy at Cohwer showed class and didn't complain.
BTW when is holmgren going to show some class and appoligize for not shaking Cohwer hand after the game.
Truely classless.
grant said:
Hey DODOHEAD!!I played Pro for 3 seasons in the Nfl and Cfl.I was never a star but at least I got to the show.You obviously never had a helmet on your head, except to maybe keep you from bouncing off the walls! I've seen Cohwer with that big friggen lip of his stick out at the slightest of questionable calls!! If he would have been in Holmgren's position he would have strangled the F'n Ref right on the field.I'm a Panther Fan, so I started out cheering for the Steelers, but only a blind bias retard could say there was nothing wrong with the Ref's! You should be fined for your low I.Q.
Pat said:
I cannot believe that Stealer fans have the gall to appear with so little knowledge of the fundamentals of football and argue that they won the game fair and square. Put the shoe on the other foot and let us know how you would feel if your team have a TD taken away by a offensive interference call that should have been at least a defensive interferance call since the Hope had his hands on DJack first, have a TD called a TD when even the Stealer QB said he didn't get in, non-existent holding call that meant bringing back the ball from the 1 yard line (sure TD by the Seahawks) and a block that was a tackle that put the Stealers in position for a trick play. Tell us how you would react.
Having lived on the east coast, I know how you would react . . . and it would be about 10 times worse than the reaction by Seahawk fans. Joey's head would have exploded.
grant said:
Hey Pat! I really can't believe the humility of some of these Stealer fans!To actually sit there and say that the Ref-ing was fair??That their team was sooo great that their defense shut down the Hawks? The only reason the yellow snots got the ball back half the time was because of crappy calls by the Ref!They must think that the WWF is based on real life in PUTTSBURGH!
Rick said:
Quit crying Seattle!!!!! Try blaming the players for the loss. Don't be hard on the players..just admit that they could have won the game and just didn't. I wrote this in another blog section and will write it in others. I'm a long time Bills fan. They lost 4 super bowls in the 90's. Hey!!! I have an idea...let's blame the refs Bills fans! Come on people get over it!!! I know it hurts Seattle but live with the loss. It was a great season for the seahawks now quit sniveling. Don't forget trash talking Stevens' dropped passes and Hasselbeck's interception. Your Kicker missed two field goals as well. Any one of these plays could have changed the game for the Seahawks and taken those pouting looks off the players faces that were already forming early. Your coach (and yes!! I love him also!) was sniveling to the refs at the end of the first half instead of motivating his players and finding a way to get back the few points needed to get back into it in the second half. Quit acting like high school fans and live with the loss. From: an adult fan
Seahawks Cowgirl said:
FIRST OF ALL I would like to thank Mike Holmgren for having the BALLS to 'tell it like it is'. Kudos Coach!!!
NEXT I would like to address the SteAler Fans posting on this blog - Does it fill a gap in your pathtic lives to go out of your way to come to a local Seattle TV Station BLOG so you can complain about whining Seahawk Fans? Please take some Prozac and get a life. This is gap in your life that you may be able to fill with RE-SCHOOLING (as I noticed not ONE of you could complete an entry on here without brain-to-hand "interference"). You'll also notice there is no whining here. There is not one of us that wouldn't have accepted defeat from a deserving team on a 'fair' field but people from as far as Australia have been posting on the bad calls and your QB Big-Head Ben even admitted an error in HIS favor. Please seek help before your condition becomes a life-style if it is not already.
Grant: Thank you for your words - I applaud you.
I would also like to say that our Hawks HAVE taken this very gracefully without a lot of ripping or trashing on the Steelers or the ref's. They are the REAL winners here.
I DO think this may possibly go up 'higher' than the ref's though. I do not blame the Steelers, the mistakes our team actually made OR solely the ref's. Somebody pays the ref's and the NFL is backing all their calls. THE NFL BACKS THESE - which leads me to believe maybe THEY are the ones who should be investigated.
A. Mayer said:
What a bunch of crybabies. I guess Holmgren missed the play at the start of the game where the Seattle Center hit the Pittsburgh player in the throat after the play was over and no foul was called. The end zone push-off was a good call, right in front of the ref and the camera.
They got beat, deal with it. What a bunch of spoiled little whine-babies, its embarrassing to listen to them.
grant said:
HEY SEAHAWKS COWGIRL:)I couln't agree with you more!!Some Moron earlier tried to use the point that the NFL backing the calls, shows that the officiating was correct!Of course they are not going to admit that the organization ruined the game.I guess since they are the governing body of what was once a great league,they expect everyone else to be IDIOTS!In my experience I've seen bad calls or bad games,but never this one sided! It reminded me of some boxing matches in the past where an opponent would come to fight in a local boxers hometown,everyone knew that the visitor had to not only beat the local hero,but he would have to beat him soundly,to leave no doubt!Even then the judges decision would sometimes be bias.When you take in all the pre-game Hype,it was all about Pittsburgh!For days you didn't even hear that OTHER TEAM mentioned!It made me think that the Steelers were going to play (with) um, by themselves.Having played the game,I know what it's like to loose momentum.It was continually taken away from the Hawks!That's what good defenses do,disrupt the rythym!In this case the refs had alot to do with it!Maybe if the Hype hadn't all been for the Steelers, people would not have had as many Questions.The league itself could never admit that there was any wrong doing during the single biggest anual sporting event in the world!Instead of issuing at least some recognition of a problem they are trying to cover their own asses!I've always been a Steelers fan,always will be. But I call a spade a spade!The Seahawks may not have won the game even with better officiating,unfortunately we'll never know.One thing is for sure, the score,would definately have been different.I appaud Big Ben for stating publicly that he didn't score the touchdown.I guess the league will say that he was wrong too! Because ultimately the League will do whatever it wants,remember it's all about the money,drama and Fairy Tail Endings!
getoverit said:
Have you guys not seen this yet. No matter what anyone said, no matter what anyone thinks, Big Ben scored. Accept it, get over it. Let's stop bringing this argument up Seahawkers.
I saw it and it looks and seems to me someone had to circle it because you can't tell from that blurry picture that that's the ball. Who know maybe Rothlesberger s*#% himself. It's pretty funny that everyone you talk to all the sports show are saying what everyone in Seattle is saying about the game. Are you watching any TV these days or are you all in your own little LA LA land back there and can not handle the truth about the Seahawks being the best. I could really careless how you feel about are team. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WERE THE BETTER TEAM OUT THERE ON THAT FIELD.
getoverit said:
Keep on searching for excuses Hawk Fan. I'll keep on celebrating !!
Cindy said:
What a sad state of affairs this is. Pittsburg fans calling Seahawks fans whiners (and worse) because we questioned the calls made Sunday. Seahawks fans becoming frustrated over the calls and taking it out on Steeler fans who are here to get props for their team's win.
This is not about Steeler fans or the Steelers winning the Super Bowl.
This is not about Seahawks fans being disappointed over their team not performing at 100% and having to contend with bad calls
This is about the NFL and the officiating. Not taking anything away from either team, after all they both got to the Super Bowl, but instead trying to get ALL FANS not to replay history but to demand consistency and some plan to improve the officiating so that this kind of after-the-game verbal brawl does not have to take place.
Now...before one of you Pittsburg fans comes on and calls me a whiner...think. I have not demeaned your win, I am not saying the Seahawks would have won but for the officiating.
I am only saying that there needs to be changes or this type of post-game disillusionment will become the norm. With all the technology there is in this world it should not be rocket science to have clearly defined rules that are evenly applied all season with the same consistency.
And to all you Pittsburg fans who seem to think that Seattle is a pitiful place. Right now I am looking at snow covered mountains which are across the sparkling Puget Sound. I can't think of any place I would rather be. We have a beautiful city, two of the countries finest sport venues (Quest Field and Safeco)and I am looking forward to our team kicking some football butt next year. As to those of you who bad mouth Holgren...He is a class act who is adored by this city, as are the Seahawks. Doesn't get much better than this.
hawkfan37 said:
getoverit,
I have to repeat myself to you now on this post? Why do you post obscure links to Pittsburgh area websites? They do not prove anything. Two words for you and any other Steeler fan who wants to post links to obscure websites showing supposed photo evidence: Adobe Photoshop.
hawkfan37 said:
getoverit,
"Keep on searching for excuses Hawk Fan. I'll keep on celebrating !!" You should be looking for a job!! LOSER.
Skinsfan said:
Where was all this outrage when the officials blew calls against the Redskins in the playoff game? I like how you Seahawks fan only complain when the calls go against you. When the game was 17-10, and the Skins had a chance to get back in, and the refs didn't call pass interference on some calls (including the last Redskins pass of the game when the CB clearly got to Moss before the ball did), where was this outrage? Did Holmgren, whom I thought had class before, say afterwards, "I knew we were good, but I didn't know the Redskins had to play the officials too?" You all won 20-10 because Redskins got hosed by refs.
What goes around, comes around.
flaco said:
The officating in this game is the worst I've ever seen in sports history. One bad call is understandable, two is a bad luck, three is a major fluke, even more is a major issue. This had well above 5 Bad calls which equals serious issues. I am a true competitor which means that I am a good sport win or lose, however when a game is this lopsided, it is truly scandalous. I've have read many non-seahawk supporting commentators and nfl fans that agree that this IS the worst officiating they have every seen, the refs compromised the integrity of the sport / game. Steelers fans and seahawk haters please look at the game objectively. If you really pay attention and really understand the rules of the game you'll know that the Steeler win was tainted. Seahawks fans the only solace we will have is the fact that this team has the ability to return to the Superbowl and win. People who haven't really followed this team do not know what awesome things this team can do. The sad thing is that the term I don't want to be "Seahawked" is being used when people are feeling that they are falsely getting penalized.
hawkfan37 said:
To All Steelers Fans and Hawk Haters,
Thank you all for your versions of reality and megalomania. It has been cathartic, antiseptic, analgesic, entertaining and refreshing. I think it is time we move on and focus our attention and energy on supporting our olympiads and the US in the Olympics. See you on the grid-iron in September.
IQ said:
So was Mr. Holmgren fined or not? All I can say is if I we're a Steeler fan, I wouldn't want the Lombardi Trophy after that farce of a game. Easily one of the worst officiated Superbowls since SPI in '67.
Greg from VT said:
1st off - the team that plays best doesn't always win. I remember a game where the Steelers outgained the Texans something like 400 yrds to 50.. but the Texans won 7-3. The reason for the loss..penalties and turnovers. The Seahawks may have played better, but they had there share of mistakes. As a friend of mine, who is a local football coach, once said..."I've lost well played games and won sloppy games. I'll take the sloppy games any day of the year." We're there question calls... sure. But not all the questionable calls (or non calls) favored the Steelers. As they often say on the NFL Network...Great teams aren't always great, just great when they have to be. Willie Parkers 75 yrd. TD run and Randel El's TD pass were examples of a great team being great when it had to be.
Spokane Steve said:
The real reasons the Seahawks lost?
1. Mike Holmgren, chief whine steward, poor clock management and play selection. Mike has done a masterful job inciting Seattle fans who feel the world is always jobbing us (NBA semifinals against Suns, UConn in NCAA BB....)
2. Steelers defense made the big plays all during the playoffs. Although they gave up many more short yards against the Hawks, they didn't use their pressure defense. Sorry to say...we were outcoached. We could have, should have taken advantage of Ben R's poor performance.
3. Where was everyone? I was there! As a Steeler fan pointed out to me--they had more fans in Pasadena than the Rams in a previous SB and Steeler more fans at a preseason game in Ireland than we had at the Super Bowl
4.Weak schedule. Helped us get there. Didn't help us win it.
Calls were close but every objective 'non-homer' seemed to think that the game was called fairly: Jeff Fischer, leading 'official' web sites, NFL review committee... listen to NFL.com post game interviews. None of the Seattle players blamed the officiating. Funny how that took off after Mike Holgren deftly shifted the focus from him to them!
"We knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well," Coach Holmgren
Holmgren was right on the money. The Officials were awful. I thinks the NFL should be investigated. Reminds me of the old days in boxing. Somebody got paid off.
Hey, they already f*cked him, so why not fine him too???
Go HAWKS!!
As a Steeler fan living in Seahawk country, I can emphasize with how everyone is feeling. Was the officiating bad? For the most part no; but for a few calls yes, it was. Even with the three or four questionable calls, the Seahawks failed to execute when they had opportunities. All season long Seattle’s “chink” in their armor was Special Team play. It really came to light Sunday.
Josh Brown had a horrible game, period. Two missed field goals that are well within his range (especially in a dome). Both should have been made. The punter and punt coverage guys were not in the game mentally. There had four opportunities to pin Pittsburgh deep (inside the 10 yard line) in their own territory, and he kicked every one of those four into the end zone, or the coverage team failed to down the ball. So much for “coffin corner”.
Great players, Hall of Fame Players, know where they are and where they need to be on the field during the “big game”, Darrell Jackson fell far short of that standard. Yes, a questionable call on pass interference, but he met the minimal criteria for the official to toss the flag. More importantly, Darrel missed a TD bomb (first half) because he didn’t know where he was on the field. He got his left foot down in bounds, but failed to get his right foot on the end zone front pylon.
Then we have Jeremy Stevens don’t we. Enough said? I think so (so would he by the way).
Do I need to address Hasselback’s clock management skills? I was very nervous when Seattle got the ball with 2 minutes left in the game. Memories of the Dallas collapse in Seattle came screaming back. There was so much time wasted by the lack of urgency. During the last 2 minutes Seattle literally gave the game away without a real fight. Mentally they were through; the Jurevicius catch deep up the middle was like bringing a patient back to life in the ER, and then the subsequent four plays you simply sat back and watched the patient die on the table.
Does it hurt to watch a team do that, yes it does. It really stinks that Seattle was the better team outside of the “Red Zone” and wasted opportunities to win the war. They are not a bad team; both have the potential to be great teams, but they both played like rookie teams at the big dance.
So where do you go from here? I know instant replay on each call the refs make, to be reviewed by the head office? Hmmmm......that should push the average game time to say four to five hours. That will make all the concessioniers happy, but not their fans.
I, like thousands of others, was enormously disappointed in the Superbowl. I have no problem being beaten and losing. However I have a huge problem with not even getting a chance to win. Did the Seahawks play their best? No!. Did the Steelers play their best? No!. Of those two teams, did the team who played a better game win? No!. I believe that the two teams should only have to deal with each other NOT have to also deal with the officials as well.
I support Mike Holmgren in his frustration and his speaking out. If he gets fined, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and donate money to help pay the fine. I'm sure that many others will join me in this.
I applaud your sticking up for your players Mike.
Way to go!
Just hearing Mike tell it like it was yesterday was so refreshing. I want to stand by him. This is one way all of us can help clean up the game. http://sayitloudmike.bravehost.com/
The Seahawks and Holmgren are lucky that the Steelers played their second worst game of the season (the first Colts game was the worst) and even gave Seattle a chance to be in the game. Otherwise it would have been a complete rout. The officiating in no way decided the outcome of this game. It wasn't like Seattle didn't commit the penalties that were called whether you think they were ticky-tacky or not. I think Seattle fans were just grasping for whatever hope they could and were devastated when a big play was called back when one of their players made an undisciplined mistake. Mistakes and penalties are part of the game. Always have been and always will be. Get over it, accept defeat, and give credit to the Champions. The best team definitely won!
I applaud Mike Holmgren for speaking out the way he did. Way to go, Mike. Rest assured, we Seahawks fans feel the same way you do. I think it's dumb that the league might be fining Holmgren (whatever happened to freedom of speech?) The people the league should be fining are the officiating crew. In fact, I wouldn't mind it one bit if they all were locked away in a federal pen for life.
Oh, hey Seacrocks, good riddance to us? Well, rest assured, pal, the feeling is mutual!
Hey seacrock, Did you watch the game? If you could not see how badly the Steelers were from our mighty Hawks. If you don't think those were bad calls then you are a blind as those referees. Your team name STEELERS suits you well. Would not want the BUS lose in his home town now would they, that would not be right. GO HAWKS YOU WERE AWESOME AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS MIKE...GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE SEACROCK....
Hey Seacrocks, SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!! "even your coach is a sore loser." That tells me you not a Seattle fan. Get out of the Seattle Boards!
YOUR A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE SEACROCK. I HATE TO HAVE YOU AS A FRIEND YOU WOULD PROBABLY ROB ME BLIND LIKE THE REFS DID TO THE MIGHTY HAWKS. I THINK YOU WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR TEAM THAT GOT ROBBED SO WHY DON'T YOU SHOVE IT.
If I were a stealers' fan (which thank goodness I am not) I think I would have switched to another team as of last Sunday. To think that those guys will have a parade and all the celebrations that come from being a true winner, is unbelievable!!! How could they, in all honesty acknowledge beeing the winners? I think the trophy has just been given to them for no reason whatsoever...Those people that think that the Seahaws fans are crying don't understand that we would not be complaining if those "zebras" had officiated by the rules. There were no rules and PERIOD! They used their own...Perhaps there was some monetary incentive for doing so! There had to have been a problem when people from all over the country are commenting on the Seahawks being robbed! I stand behind Mr. Holmgren 100%. Perhaps it is time to look into the qualifications of the president of the NFL, as well, not just the qualifications of the "zebras".
To all you Steeler Fans. For one second put yourself in our shoes. Remember your game against Denver. Wah, Wah Wah about a call that was not ruled an interception as it should have been. And at least that call didn't change the ourcome of the game.
This game has impacted all of football not just the Seahawks or the Steelers. That is why people all over the country who are not Steeler or Seahawks fans are crying foul. You had the final score, you have the ring but do you have the integrity to stand up and say we want fair, unbiased refereeing of games? If you don't then next year, when it happens to you don't think we will shed any tears for the "poor Steelers."
And just as a final comment...apprears that Big Ben admitted on Letterman that he did not cross the goal line for the touchdown. Now you may say oh well, they would have taken it in on fourth down. But...you have to admit that there could have been a turnover, a fumble ala Bettis or we could have just held them. We will never know because it was taken out of our teams hands.
So go ahead Steeler fans...rant at us, call us poor losers but if you really care about football and a "great legacy" you will join all the teams and fans everywhere and step up to the plate to make sure that every game is refereed fairly and witout the appearance of any bias.
I probably should clarify for the record that my comment to Seacrocks posted above should be taken that if he is saying good riddance to the Seahawks, then us Seahawk fans should be able to say good riddance to him. Just wanted to clarify that in case anyone thinks I'm turning my back on the Seahawks. Believe me, I am not, I couldn't be any more proud of them. They had one heck of a season, and will be back next year. I will go to my grave being a Seahawks fan.
Hey Seacrocks.... Isn't time for you to get your lunch and catch the short yellow bus to school?
So, you're not a "squeelers" fan... by your infantile language, I'm guessing that you're a Patriots fan..... but I could be wrong. Doesn't really matter, you've proven yourself to be a complete and utter idiot. Keep posting... it gives us all something to laugh at, and we need that right now.
GO HAWKS!!!
ok Seattle fans, let's have the perfect game so that your team's mistakes won't hurt them. No Offensive pass interference on Seattle, therefore a TD (but only 4 extra points because they got a FG anyway). Big Ben isn't in for a TD. Even though Pgh would have scored a TD anyway because they would have been on the 1 millimeter line and still had another down, let's assume Pgh kicked a FG, so take 4 points off of their score. Do we need to take the holding penalties away also since obviously Seattle fans think no penalties should have been called on their team. Take all this, and Pgh still wins. What's your excuse now Mike Holmgren and the Seattle whiners? Have some class. True champions don't blame others for their shortcomings. They accept the outcome, become stronger, and come back next year ready to do battle again. Seattle plays in the weak NFC and couldn't have beat Cincy, Indy, or Denver. They should have been honored to be on the same field with the mighty Steelers. Everyone outside of Seattle knows The real Super Bowl was actually played in Indianapolis weeks before!!
steelerfaninthewest - Last time I checked, other than one comment from Mike Holmgren, our "team" isn't whining, in fact they are all saying that they came up short and didn't play as well as they could/should have. The fans are bitching and comlaining about the officiating, which we have every right to do. If you don't like it, don't read it. No one is forcing you to come to this website.
GO HAWKS!!!
Too bad Seattle is not closer to Green Bay...
We could have some cheese with all this great wine.....
A HA HA HA HA
If they fine Holmgren for his barb in jest, then they should fine Joey Porter double for his comments after the Indy playoff game. Otherwise, the NFL is a hyprocite and I think frankly they would like this all to go away quickly and quietly.
Somebody please address the story going around about the two coaches not shaking hands at the end of them game. I've seen it on some blogs. Calling Holmgren a sore loser. But that is a bunch of crap. Thank
I just get a kick out of seeing how much the Seattle fans are working themselves up over this. They just can't believe their team lost to a better team so they are trying to find any reason they can to explain it. The trophy is where it belongs, in Pittsburgh. You know, the Steelers could have left the field at halftime and given Seattle's Offense four more plays against nothing but air, and Seattle still wouldn't have scored because they would have ran out of time :-)
Holmgren said he couldn't find Cowher after the game (how hard is that? go to the 50 yd line like every other game). But reports say he did go to the Steeler locker room after the game to congratulate Cowher (away from the National Media). Form your own opinion!!!
Steelerfaninthewest: This is not just Seattle fans working themselves up the uproar is in Denver, Miami, Chicago and all places outside a radius of 200 miles of Pittsburg and Detroit. This is about sports analyists from around the conutry INCLUDING those who were behind Pittsburg saying that this was the worst debacle they had seen. So wise up...this is not all about Seattle sour grapes. This is about people who love football and want to see a good contest that is fairly played. This is about making sure ALL teams have the benefit of the best in terms of a referee.
And you seacrock....I have been watching football, professional, college and highschool games for over 43 years. DON'T call me a newby to the game...I have seen EVERY Superbowl!!!! and although I have seen many, many bad calls over the years I have NEVER seen the tempo and momentum of a game so dictated by the guys in stripes!!!! EVER. So go away you troll...find someone who wants to listen to YOUR sour grapes that we should all bow and scrape to the great Steelers... They won the superbowl, they have the ring but obviously their fans are ignorant and stupid if they think their team won this one by themselves. We will never, ever truly know who would have won because of the bad calls.
Cindy: Since you have been around so long and know so much then you must know that there have been 39 losing teams in the Super Bowl before Seattle. Fans, players, Coaches, and everyone involved with these losing teams all felt the same devestation that Seahawk fans, players, and coaches must be feeling. The difference is that these 39 losing teams all accepted defeat gracefully. Seattle is a discrace to the NFL community for the way they are carrying on accepting their defeat.
steelerfaninthewest I have not heard of any seahawks fans assaulting pittsburgh fans before during or after the game. but today I read an article about a man in a steeler pullover assaulting a man in a seahawks jersey at a grocery store on Sunday following the game, according to the story the steeler fan was basically rubbing the steeler win in the other mans face and when he did not receive the response he expected he physically assaulted the man in front of his wife. I guess I would rather be referred to as a poor loser than a steeler fan after that display.
Steve: That's a real convincing argument. You definitely changed my mind with that story
was not intending to change your mind, I was just curious why he felt he had to go prove his dominance over this other person.
Steve: probably the result of beer!
Can you say, "Grand jury investigation of NFL is warranted!"??? Where is former attorney general Gregoire's fire when we need it?
You know you people who don't live in our great city of seattle, and are writing on this blog about how whiny we are, we are not whining we are trying to get a point across. The Super Bowl is supposed to be highlight of the football season, and the best team in there should win. Can you honestly tell me that Pittsburgh was better all around than Seattle. Sure we made alot of mistakes later on, but wouldn't you if that were you out there and having all these bad call against your team. They were fustrated and I do not blame them. Wouldn't you be fustrated if that happened to you at your job. SO GET OFF OUR BACKS!
Seahawks had the best year ever. The Refs did not make the Super Bowl what it is supposed to be.
They made a huge joke of it, why even have a Super Bowl if we can't get some good referees and have it be a fair event to watch. YOU PEOPLE CUTTING DOWN US IN SEATTLE AND OUR TEAM, HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS TO HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST IN YOUR TOWN. How can you guys even feel good about that win, I no I could not. SO WHATEVER TO ALL OF YOU LOSERS NOT IN SEATTLE.
sorry you can't accept that the Seahawks are better Steelers fans, and i'm sorry your team honestly played horrible. It looks like you guys will never learn that being the best means at one point you have to be the worst. Seattle was bad ten years ago. But now they are the best there is. Sadly the Steelers are the complete opposite. They don't belong in the NFC because they aren't good enough, because the fact is NFC is actually better. Yes, it's true. sorry steelers fans, go to hell.
Sadly, the Steelers are the losers of the Superbowl, they know it. Despite the fact Seattle played poorly in some aspects of the game, the Steelers fell short of that which we expect in a highschool varsity team. Roethlesberger sucked horribly. Please Steelers, i know it's hard for you to accept, but the truth is, Seattle is better than you. Accept is please. May I suggest a psychiatrist?
Vote yes on initiative 12321, the Trophy belongs to the Seahawks
sorry steelers, you suck again: The NFC is better than the AFC???? How many Super Bowls has the NFC won in the last 10 years. What was the NFC's record against AFC teams this year. Seattle couldn't have beat the AFC teams that didn't even make the playoffs this year. Obvously this is from some band wagon Seattle fan that knows very little about football.
Hawk Fan: Yes I can honestly say Pittsburgh is better than Seattle. Pittsburgh played their worst game of the year against Seattle and still beat them. Imagine what the score would have been if the Steelers played even 50% of what they are capable of. But I don't blame you for being angry and looking to blame the loss on the Ref's. If I were a Seahawk fan I would be so shell-shocked at what happened to my team (that I thought was actually Super Bowl material)that I would have to find something to blame it on. We won, you lost. Cry on!!!!!!!!!
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Offsides of a Steeler while Locklear is flagged for a hold, delay of game but a time out is granted AFTER the play clock shows 0, chop block flagged while Hasselbeck getting OFFICIAL credit for making a tackle, WOW! There is now more predictibility of an outcome in the NFL than in the WWF or Roller Derby! I can't wait to see any of those clowns do a game in Seattle! Should be a very warm reception indeed. The NFL has had problems for years. The instant replay was instituted as a stop-gap measure to correct referee incompetence. Do we see IR in any other professional sport to the extent of the NFL?
Just hearing Mike tell it like it was yesterday was so refreshing. I want to stand by him. This is one way all of us can help clean up the game. http://sayitloudmike.bravehost.com/
Holmgren should be fined -- for his poor coaching.
Why did he stop running the ball?
Why did he stop running the short out routes?
Why did he squander the clock at the end of both halves?
When the Steelers faced bad calls in Indy at Cohwer showed class and didn't complain.
BTW when is holmgren going to show some class and appoligize for not shaking Cohwer hand after the game.
Truely classless.
Hey DODOHEAD!!I played Pro for 3 seasons in the Nfl and Cfl.I was never a star but at least I got to the show.You obviously never had a helmet on your head, except to maybe keep you from bouncing off the walls! I've seen Cohwer with that big friggen lip of his stick out at the slightest of questionable calls!! If he would have been in Holmgren's position he would have strangled the F'n Ref right on the field.I'm a Panther Fan, so I started out cheering for the Steelers, but only a blind bias retard could say there was nothing wrong with the Ref's! You should be fined for your low I.Q.
I cannot believe that Stealer fans have the gall to appear with so little knowledge of the fundamentals of football and argue that they won the game fair and square. Put the shoe on the other foot and let us know how you would feel if your team have a TD taken away by a offensive interference call that should have been at least a defensive interferance call since the Hope had his hands on DJack first, have a TD called a TD when even the Stealer QB said he didn't get in, non-existent holding call that meant bringing back the ball from the 1 yard line (sure TD by the Seahawks) and a block that was a tackle that put the Stealers in position for a trick play. Tell us how you would react.
Having lived on the east coast, I know how you would react . . . and it would be about 10 times worse than the reaction by Seahawk fans. Joey's head would have exploded.
Hey Pat! I really can't believe the humility of some of these Stealer fans!To actually sit there and say that the Ref-ing was fair??That their team was sooo great that their defense shut down the Hawks? The only reason the yellow snots got the ball back half the time was because of crappy calls by the Ref!They must think that the WWF is based on real life in PUTTSBURGH!
Quit crying Seattle!!!!! Try blaming the players for the loss. Don't be hard on the players..just admit that they could have won the game and just didn't. I wrote this in another blog section and will write it in others. I'm a long time Bills fan. They lost 4 super bowls in the 90's. Hey!!! I have an idea...let's blame the refs Bills fans! Come on people get over it!!! I know it hurts Seattle but live with the loss. It was a great season for the seahawks now quit sniveling. Don't forget trash talking Stevens' dropped passes and Hasselbeck's interception. Your Kicker missed two field goals as well. Any one of these plays could have changed the game for the Seahawks and taken those pouting looks off the players faces that were already forming early. Your coach (and yes!! I love him also!) was sniveling to the refs at the end of the first half instead of motivating his players and finding a way to get back the few points needed to get back into it in the second half. Quit acting like high school fans and live with the loss. From: an adult fan
FIRST OF ALL I would like to thank Mike Holmgren for having the BALLS to 'tell it like it is'. Kudos Coach!!!
NEXT I would like to address the SteAler Fans posting on this blog - Does it fill a gap in your pathtic lives to go out of your way to come to a local Seattle TV Station BLOG so you can complain about whining Seahawk Fans? Please take some Prozac and get a life. This is gap in your life that you may be able to fill with RE-SCHOOLING (as I noticed not ONE of you could complete an entry on here without brain-to-hand "interference"). You'll also notice there is no whining here. There is not one of us that wouldn't have accepted defeat from a deserving team on a 'fair' field but people from as far as Australia have been posting on the bad calls and your QB Big-Head Ben even admitted an error in HIS favor. Please seek help before your condition becomes a life-style if it is not already.
Grant: Thank you for your words - I applaud you.
I would also like to say that our Hawks HAVE taken this very gracefully without a lot of ripping or trashing on the Steelers or the ref's. They are the REAL winners here.
I DO think this may possibly go up 'higher' than the ref's though. I do not blame the Steelers, the mistakes our team actually made OR solely the ref's. Somebody pays the ref's and the NFL is backing all their calls. THE NFL BACKS THESE - which leads me to believe maybe THEY are the ones who should be investigated.
What a bunch of crybabies. I guess Holmgren missed the play at the start of the game where the Seattle Center hit the Pittsburgh player in the throat after the play was over and no foul was called. The end zone push-off was a good call, right in front of the ref and the camera.
They got beat, deal with it. What a bunch of spoiled little whine-babies, its embarrassing to listen to them.
HEY SEAHAWKS COWGIRL:)I couln't agree with you more!!Some Moron earlier tried to use the point that the NFL backing the calls, shows that the officiating was correct!Of course they are not going to admit that the organization ruined the game.I guess since they are the governing body of what was once a great league,they expect everyone else to be IDIOTS!In my experience I've seen bad calls or bad games,but never this one sided! It reminded me of some boxing matches in the past where an opponent would come to fight in a local boxers hometown,everyone knew that the visitor had to not only beat the local hero,but he would have to beat him soundly,to leave no doubt!Even then the judges decision would sometimes be bias.When you take in all the pre-game Hype,it was all about Pittsburgh!For days you didn't even hear that OTHER TEAM mentioned!It made me think that the Steelers were going to play (with) um, by themselves.Having played the game,I know what it's like to loose momentum.It was continually taken away from the Hawks!That's what good defenses do,disrupt the rythym!In this case the refs had alot to do with it!Maybe if the Hype hadn't all been for the Steelers, people would not have had as many Questions.The league itself could never admit that there was any wrong doing during the single biggest anual sporting event in the world!Instead of issuing at least some recognition of a problem they are trying to cover their own asses!I've always been a Steelers fan,always will be. But I call a spade a spade!The Seahawks may not have won the game even with better officiating,unfortunately we'll never know.One thing is for sure, the score,would definately have been different.I appaud Big Ben for stating publicly that he didn't score the touchdown.I guess the league will say that he was wrong too! Because ultimately the League will do whatever it wants,remember it's all about the money,drama and Fairy Tail Endings!
Have you guys not seen this yet. No matter what anyone said, no matter what anyone thinks, Big Ben scored. Accept it, get over it. Let's stop bringing this argument up Seahawkers.
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I saw it and it looks and seems to me someone had to circle it because you can't tell from that blurry picture that that's the ball. Who know maybe Rothlesberger s*#% himself. It's pretty funny that everyone you talk to all the sports show are saying what everyone in Seattle is saying about the game. Are you watching any TV these days or are you all in your own little LA LA land back there and can not handle the truth about the Seahawks being the best. I could really careless how you feel about are team. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WERE THE BETTER TEAM OUT THERE ON THAT FIELD.
Keep on searching for excuses Hawk Fan. I'll keep on celebrating !!
What a sad state of affairs this is. Pittsburg fans calling Seahawks fans whiners (and worse) because we questioned the calls made Sunday. Seahawks fans becoming frustrated over the calls and taking it out on Steeler fans who are here to get props for their team's win.
This is not about Steeler fans or the Steelers winning the Super Bowl.
This is not about Seahawks fans being disappointed over their team not performing at 100% and having to contend with bad calls
This is about the NFL and the officiating. Not taking anything away from either team, after all they both got to the Super Bowl, but instead trying to get ALL FANS not to replay history but to demand consistency and some plan to improve the officiating so that this kind of after-the-game verbal brawl does not have to take place.
Now...before one of you Pittsburg fans comes on and calls me a whiner...think. I have not demeaned your win, I am not saying the Seahawks would have won but for the officiating.
I am only saying that there needs to be changes or this type of post-game disillusionment will become the norm. With all the technology there is in this world it should not be rocket science to have clearly defined rules that are evenly applied all season with the same consistency.
And to all you Pittsburg fans who seem to think that Seattle is a pitiful place. Right now I am looking at snow covered mountains which are across the sparkling Puget Sound. I can't think of any place I would rather be. We have a beautiful city, two of the countries finest sport venues (Quest Field and Safeco)and I am looking forward to our team kicking some football butt next year. As to those of you who bad mouth Holgren...He is a class act who is adored by this city, as are the Seahawks. Doesn't get much better than this.
getoverit,
I have to repeat myself to you now on this post? Why do you post obscure links to Pittsburgh area websites? They do not prove anything. Two words for you and any other Steeler fan who wants to post links to obscure websites showing supposed photo evidence: Adobe Photoshop.
getoverit,
"Keep on searching for excuses Hawk Fan. I'll keep on celebrating !!" You should be looking for a job!! LOSER.
Where was all this outrage when the officials blew calls against the Redskins in the playoff game? I like how you Seahawks fan only complain when the calls go against you. When the game was 17-10, and the Skins had a chance to get back in, and the refs didn't call pass interference on some calls (including the last Redskins pass of the game when the CB clearly got to Moss before the ball did), where was this outrage? Did Holmgren, whom I thought had class before, say afterwards, "I knew we were good, but I didn't know the Redskins had to play the officials too?" You all won 20-10 because Redskins got hosed by refs.
What goes around, comes around.
The officating in this game is the worst I've ever seen in sports history. One bad call is understandable, two is a bad luck, three is a major fluke, even more is a major issue. This had well above 5 Bad calls which equals serious issues. I am a true competitor which means that I am a good sport win or lose, however when a game is this lopsided, it is truly scandalous. I've have read many non-seahawk supporting commentators and nfl fans that agree that this IS the worst officiating they have every seen, the refs compromised the integrity of the sport / game. Steelers fans and seahawk haters please look at the game objectively. If you really pay attention and really understand the rules of the game you'll know that the Steeler win was tainted. Seahawks fans the only solace we will have is the fact that this team has the ability to return to the Superbowl and win. People who haven't really followed this team do not know what awesome things this team can do. The sad thing is that the term I don't want to be "Seahawked" is being used when people are feeling that they are falsely getting penalized.
To All Steelers Fans and Hawk Haters,
Thank you all for your versions of reality and megalomania. It has been cathartic, antiseptic, analgesic, entertaining and refreshing. I think it is time we move on and focus our attention and energy on supporting our olympiads and the US in the Olympics. See you on the grid-iron in September.
So was Mr. Holmgren fined or not? All I can say is if I we're a Steeler fan, I wouldn't want the Lombardi Trophy after that farce of a game. Easily one of the worst officiated Superbowls since SPI in '67.
1st off - the team that plays best doesn't always win. I remember a game where the Steelers outgained the Texans something like 400 yrds to 50.. but the Texans won 7-3. The reason for the loss..penalties and turnovers. The Seahawks may have played better, but they had there share of mistakes. As a friend of mine, who is a local football coach, once said..."I've lost well played games and won sloppy games. I'll take the sloppy games any day of the year." We're there question calls... sure. But not all the questionable calls (or non calls) favored the Steelers. As they often say on the NFL Network...Great teams aren't always great, just great when they have to be. Willie Parkers 75 yrd. TD run and Randel El's TD pass were examples of a great team being great when it had to be.
The real reasons the Seahawks lost?
1. Mike Holmgren, chief whine steward, poor clock management and play selection. Mike has done a masterful job inciting Seattle fans who feel the world is always jobbing us (NBA semifinals against Suns, UConn in NCAA BB....)
2. Steelers defense made the big plays all during the playoffs. Although they gave up many more short yards against the Hawks, they didn't use their pressure defense. Sorry to say...we were outcoached. We could have, should have taken advantage of Ben R's poor performance.
3. Where was everyone? I was there! As a Steeler fan pointed out to me--they had more fans in Pasadena than the Rams in a previous SB and Steeler more fans at a preseason game in Ireland than we had at the Super Bowl
4.Weak schedule. Helped us get there. Didn't help us win it.
Calls were close but every objective 'non-homer' seemed to think that the game was called fairly: Jeff Fischer, leading 'official' web sites, NFL review committee... listen to NFL.com post game interviews. None of the Seattle players blamed the officiating. Funny how that took off after Mike Holgren deftly shifted the focus from him to them!