let it go cory let it die in piece

The Superbowl actually was ironically quite freeing. I was always suspicious that The NFL was fixed, but now that I've seen 30 years of my life culminate in the theft of my all-time favorite team's title, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the outcome of particular games are pre-determined.

So, there is no longer any point in wasting my time watching pro football. I will still support The Hawks, and perhaps watch on occasion, but the illusion is gone. I have now completely awakened and refuse to go back to sleep, no matter how pleasant the dream.

J.R. Brestin
Indianapolis, Indiana
(Former Seattle Resident)

In the end I believe the NHL betting controversy will be connected to the Superbowl fix.There was so many obvious bad calls that no person in thier right mind would think otherwise.We cant let this die,this game was ours and we were cheated out of it!!! We had mistakes but we still dominated this game.I understand that the back judge was a Pittsburg native,the same one that had a rock thrown thru his living room window.W as he scared into cheating? Mike wasn't fined because they know that would piss Paul Allen off and he would hire a independant investigator to get to the bottom of this.Hey thats a good idea!!! GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you folks still believe in the tooth fairy also

Hey Ricco,

Perhaps we do believe in the tooth fairy, but what does that have to do with the too many men on the field charges that should be filed. Oh, and by the way, we can believe in the tooth fairy since we have teeth.

Its time for your reality check. I'll admit that the refs tried to rip you guys off against Indy. I believe that, that call still goes down as the worst in the history of the league. We all knew it and got to hear Joey put the league and its officiating into question. I bet you were one of those people that was protesting at the time.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot you feel no longer question the league or officials. Isn't that curious!

They often say it is sometimes better to be lucky than good. You, the bus, all the other Stealers, and it's toothless followers know you were lucky, because the rest of the world saw that you weren't good!

Wouldn't it be great if the most important game in football could be won or lost by the two teams on the field. What a novel thought!

u guys are creating new scenarios everyday now . it started with a few so called bad calls and now its snowballed into every little call went against my team the seadoves. your so called dominating performance in the superbowl is not as big as you think, go look at the stats for the game everything was close except for the score, be glad our qb played his worst career game we would have blown you guys out.

RICCO YOU ARE A IDIOT.TAKE AWAY THOSE BULL____ PENALTIES AND WE WOULD HAVE DOMINATED IN YARDAGE.I REST MY CASE. GO SEAHAWKS!!!!

I agree that the refs had more of an affect on the results of this game than the players. They moved the ball for the Steelers way better than the Steelers offense. This was by far the worst officiated football game I've ever seen. You would expect the NFL to appoint the BEST refs to the Super Bowl, but apparently that is not the case. These teams were pretty evenly matched, but the Seahawks were penalized 70 yards and that's not counting the yardage they lost on those plays. That's only counting the yardage from the previous line of scrimmage. I would bet that if you added up the actual yardage lost due to these penalties, you would see that the refs actually accumulated more yardage than the Steelers offense. MVPs all the way in my book. The 12th man was nothing against the 12th through the 18th in black and white on the field for the Steelers.

Mr. E, I couldn't have said it better. From what I read, penalty yardage and yard that was lost due to the penalty totaled 161 yards in the first half alone.

I understand that bad calls for the winning team are hardly ever mentioned and bad calls against the losing team are always magnified but
I would like to point a few bad calls that went against the Steelers
After Bens horrible INT watch how flagrant the block to the back is on Ben..
If that penalty was called the ball would have been placed on the seattle 45 instead of the Steelers 25
Also the incomplete call on the third-and-2 pass tight end Jerramy Stevens clearly caught in Steelers' territory before being popped by free safety Chris Hope and fumbling.
The whistle blew and the Steelers missed out on a chance to pick up the ball and run up field
Heath Millers pass interference was also questionable.
Bens Touchdown was a close call either way and the pass penalty I feel was a good call..you are not allowed to extend your arms and push and that is what he did...Hopes feet move backward during the push
The refs did a bad job but as far as letting the teams play but if those calls were made in a regular season game most people would have agreed with them. The Steelers had a few really bad calls in the Indy game but Champions overcome and prevail
I understand there were very questionable calls that could have gone either way but went against Seattle. There are bad "non" calls and bad flagged calls in every NFL game, it goes both ways, not always balanced out but thats the NFL

look at the footage... djack freed up his arms and Hope jumped back to make it look like a push off...

Jeremy Stevens catch I agree... fumble...

what about the block that Burger threw during randels els touchdown... same block Hasselback got called for on a LEGAL tackle

the refs need to be full-time... end of story

Most of these blogs have given me hope for the future. As I work with young people daily I am inspired by most of them. Many adults complain about todays youth but after reading the incoherent rantings and ramblings of sports fans who are more concerned with conspiracies, fixes, and the sort, I think it is the adults that the youth need to worry about.

I wish the X files were still on so they could make an episode about the super bowl. Of course there were some questionable or even bad calls, mostly on Seattle. However, the fix doesn't cause Holmgren and Hasselback to have a brain melt down at the end of the first half. It doesn't cause Jeramy Stevens to drop three critical passes. It doesn't cause the Seattle defense to give up a record setting 75 yard rushing touchdown. It doesn't caues two almost touchdown passes to be caught out of bounds. YOu get the point.

I am not from Pittsburgh and actually consider them arch enemies dating back to the 1970's so I am not happy they won but pleeease take a deep breath and enjoy the Seahawks season. Have a little class and lose with class. If you need help understanding what that is I can send you a 17 or 18 year old athlete who can explain it to you.

Bens block during El's TD pass was not below the waist and the arms extended push by Jackson did cause Hope to move backward or at least gave that Impression.If you want to say Hope faked to make it look like a push off than good for him. Players set up illusions all the time, Jackson's arms were fully extended when he did not need to do so. Jackson put himself in that position. You did not respond to the most obvious "non" call of the game. The back push on Ben during the interception return. That non call cost the Steelers 35 yards and set up Seattle for a TD
I have nothing against Seattle and I understand why Seattle fans are upset after a big game but there are always two sides of a coin and sometimes we see things from opposite perspectives. I wish we were just talking about the game and not the refs.Both teams had great seasons and deserve better.

QUIT YOUR WHINING. YOU LOST. YOU DIDNT PLAY GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN, YOUR TEAM WASNT GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT PITTSBURGH. ACCEPT THAT AND MOVE ON. QUIT BEING LITTLE BABIES.

Bens block during El's TD pass was not below the waist and the arms extended push by Jackson did cause Hope to move backward or at least gave that Impression.If you want to say Hope faked to make it look like a push off than good for him. Players set up illusions all the time, Jackson's arms were fully extended when he did not need to do so. Jackson put himself in that position. You did not respond to the most obvious "non" call of the game. The back push on Ben during the interception return. That non call cost the Steelers 35 yards and set up Seattle for a TD
I have nothing against Seattle and I understand why Seattle fans are upset after a big game but there are always two sides of a coin and sometimes we see things from opposite perspectives. I wish we were just talking about the game and not the refs.Both teams had great seasons and deserve better.

Jeremy,Ricco must be your brother because you are both IDIOTS.You Steeler fans are so proud of what? Seattle dominated you all day,and will dominate you again next year.what you had 3 big plays,(1)a broken play for a long pass(2)obviously having to use a trick play because not good enough to play staight up and (3)the longest run against the seahawks all year,another fluk. Jackson had to push off,the defender was trying to grab him.What about the hold on locklear? was not the steeler off sides on that play? Means free play which would have been first down on the 2 with that completion. Instead the blind refs blew another one. 10 yard yard penelty ,then sack,then interception, then a penelty on matt for a illegal block when he was tackling,where the hell did that come from. By the way G ary are you taking notes or are you a blind bias also? How about when ben ran out of play clock and they still let him call a time out? All this adds up to the obvious,the whole nation wanted the steelers to win- Jerome coming home,the steelers are one of AMERICAS teams,and SEATTLE WHO ARE THEY. It sure helps to have a ref that is a Pittsburg native as I stated above.We had a few mistakes ,but if it was 11 on 11 we were CHAMPS. go watch the replay.

Steve you seem kind of rude go have a glass of prune juice and relax
The fact is you are a sniveler.
You call the Parker run a fluke?
What kind of defense is that?
If you watch the film you will notice the play clock also ran out on Seattle as well before Matt snapped the ball.
You refuse to answer the three calls that went against the Steelers.
I agree that the Call call on Matt was a horrible call and the holding on Loclear was marginal at best and it does appear that Haggins was off side
Trying to grab someone and actually grabbing someone is two different things. The rules are the rules. Trick plays have always been apart of football..you guys knew it going in that the Steelers ran gadget plays. We ran one gadget play Steve and Seattle was not prepared to handle it. Seattle runs a hurry up offense so that defenses are unable to set up in proper formations, it's called catching your opponent off guard.

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LUCK??? HA, HA, HA!!!! Luck was all on the side of the Steelers. The Seahawks had the worst day of the season (and still out played the Pit). If you need reference take a look at the Carolina game, just another game that the Hawks were not supposed to have had a prayer of winning. Was that “Trick reversal” out of some Pit high school coach’s playbook. Oooo, you burned our third string safety, scary….

Yes I am rude and you are just another pittsburg fan with tunnel vision.We were robbed by the incompetant refs and you aren't man enough to admit it. Now you go enjoy your championship you didn't deserve.can't wait till next year.GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!

This will be my last response.
Yes, Seattle did not play well but the same can be said for the Steelers. Ben had a horrible day and he did not get much help with lack of a running game and a few dropped passes, one being a TD pass that Ward dropped.
Seattle did play well against Carolina but Carolina had no running backs so Seattle could key on the pass. Seattle's play against the Redskins was nothing to pump your fist in the air over. Seattle has been an average team at best the last 5 years and this year you had one of the easiest schedules. As mentioned, this will be my last retort..Most of you will be bitter the rest of your days. Yes, I am a man and I have chest hair to prove it. I have no ax to grind with you so good luck getting over your heartache.

There was a team from Seattle,
come crunch time they began to unravel.
As they blew-up they cried foul,
we can't beat the Steelers and the terrible towel,
So they began to whine and pout,
"we were cheated by zebras",they shout.
"Every call went Pittsburghs way,
and we outplayed and dominated all day."
So I end this rhyme and leave you to shame,
with this parting thought, Who won the Game.

WOW! HA, HA, HA! Will the hypocrisy never end???? Now its “Carolina didn’t have a running game” but before the game they were unbeatable. It was the same team going in as it was coming out of the game and now you have nothing but pathetic excuses that only make you a fool and FAR from a man! Uhhhh, the Redskins game…our special teams sucked for sure but you fail to recognize that we lost our MVP running back and had to pass against the 5the ranked pass defense to win that game. So I’m going to have to disagree…it is something to pump our fist about. Bitter, its not bitterness, we just aren’t satisfied to take it in the backside and say “thank you, may I have another”. It’s called having a pair.

we got a pair of pairs with a spare to boot, Lombardi Trophies. Take your whupping young men and do not cry, I'm sure you can change the score somehow. Maybe monkeys will fly out your butt also.

GARY,I'm proud of you for backing down,you know you don't have a case.About our easy schedule-The seahawks won the division in 04 and the computer picked our schedule.These teams were all playoff teams in 04 so how can this be easy?Falcons,redskins,rams,cowboys,giants,eagles,colts and greenbay.we were picked in preseason 05 to finish third in our division but DOMINATED.Please come up with a better argument.AS FOR THE REST OF YOU STEELER YAHOO'S "we dont have nothing against your team,its the refs and the nfl we have a beef with". This superbowl game should be marked in the record books with an ASTERISK.

Fact Seahawk Schedule combined win perct. .427
Steelers .492
Fact Seahawk schedule only five games against teams with non losing schedule, Steelers 8 teams
Fact Seahawk 4 games against playoff teams
Steelers 6
Fact Steelers 5-0 against NFC Seahawks lost to Jags

steve: if there were to be an asterisk, it would state "this team faced the hardest road possible to the super bowl, by beating the AFC 1, 2, and 3 seeds on the road, then defeating the NFL 1 seed in the superbowl. also, they tied the 49ers and cowboys for most super bowl victories"

and also, while you may only have a beef with the refs, you are taking away from the steelers victory. you are basically insulting the steelers by saying they were not good enough to win, when quite clearly, after dominating the top 3 afc teams and beating the seahawks by 11 points, they demonstrated their superiority.

I'm talking about schedule made from records of teams after 04,not after 05.we had a 13-3 season, thats why teams after the 05 season had such a terrible record.YOU are missing the point in every direction.I'll say this again-If the matchup was 11 on 11 we would have had an easy win.GO SEAHAWKS!!!!

no, you wouldnt have. pittsburgh still would have one even if all the close calls went the other day. the fact is, pittsburgh won, and you are a sore loser :)

BIT ME JEREMY

no thanks, i'd probably get some sort of disease.

The Steelers fans have perfected the art of talking out of both sides of their mouths and elsewhere, for that matter. When the Steelers had the ONE bad call in the Indy game that COULD HAVE cost you the game, They collectively climbed to the tops of the highest mountains and screamed “The officials are corrupt”, “They could have stolen that game from us” but now that it’s time to actually do the work to correct the problem you sit on your thumbs and let everybody ells do the work. Don’t worry or inconvenience your selves, we will get it fixed and you can continue to sit on your flabby, professional welfare collecting @ss and enjoy the spoils. We are a country that was built on Democracy but has become a country that suckles off of the teat of hypocrisy. Pathetic, like I said…. seriously, grow a pair.

i don't recall that many steelers fans saying the officials were corrupt, and we certainly didnt say that the nfl was trying to fix the game. nonetheless, pittsburgh over came the many calls that were close (there was more than just one "bad" call). in the end, the best teams overcome all else to win, as pittsburgh did at indy.

List all of the “bad calls” in the Indy game, with the NFL rules regarding these calls and then we will talk. We’re not talking about penalties being called that you don’t like, we’re talking about “Bad calls” that changed the outcome of the game. If you can’t produce them then leave the room, the adults are talking.

Thanks cl for speaking your mind.We need to continue to speak our mind and stick up for what is right.There is a reason why mike didnt get fined.they know we were wronged.GO SEAHAWKS!!!

I am a longtime Seahawks fan, former VP of a Seahawks booster club in Alaska, lived in Seattle for 6 years & now in Alabama. I watched the game with a Pittsburgh native/fan who is also a former NY Football Giants player, We both were disappointed with the officiating in the SB. And I might add that nearly every person I talked to after the game (and you know Alabamians know their football!-) thought the officiating stunk as well; But, come on guys! The game is over, and yes, the officiating stunk, but Pittsburgh did put the points on the board & the Hawks didn't - the game is made up of many plays, it's not like the Seahawks didn't have the opportunities through four quarters of football to put up more that 10 points! You're always going to have a number of flags, interceptions, fumbles, incomplete passes, bad calls etc... in any game. But, I'm sorry but if a team can't overcome 2 or 3 bad calls, incomplete passes, fumbles, penalties, etc, & use the other 70+ plays to score, then guess what? They lose.
And as much as I hate to say it, Pittsburgh won, Seattle lost. Personally I was just happy Seattle finally had a team to a "Big Game" That to me was the biggest victory of all. I seem to recall while living in Seattle that just having a good football team worthy of the leagues respect was enough victory for Seahawk fans. My advice; Take pride in the Seahawks' great season and look forward to next year.

i could produce a list of bad plays but i'd have to go back and look at the game, it was a month ago, but nonetheless the nfl actually admitted they screwed that one up. and there were multiple pass interferences and holdings that were more questionable than the ones in the seahawks game, pittsburgh over came them, didnt cry like little babies, didnt sit on the sidelines and cry, they went out on the field and played ball. in the playoffs, its put up or shup up. the steelers put up, the seahawks didnt.

b, you have yet to produce anything factual so I’m not surprised by your empty response.

Moving on: So what I am hearing is that we should just accept that officiating is inadequate in football and we should not make any efforts to improve it? I’m not sure if you are aware of it or not but the super bowl wasn’t the last football game that will ever be played. There is another season in about six months. Should we AS FOOTBALL FANS just settle for “Eh, close enough”? When did football go from a game of inches to a game of close enough? The sport and the athletes are better, quicker and paid more then they have ever been. Why would you be so willing to accept less from the officiating? They’re temp worker-weekend warriors getting out of the office for the day. Why would you not bring the officials up to the same level that the game now is? All throughout this blog there is one common string “there has been bad officiating throughout the season”. We aren’t talking about just the super bowl or the Colts/Steelers game, or even the pro bowl. So what really is your objection here? We’re talking about the quality of the sport. You are only as strong as your weakest link. Think big picture. I am a diehard FOOTBALL fan! I love the game. I’m a season ticket holder. I watch every sport show that has to do with football. I’ve studied stats for years and followed several teams throughout the NFL, including but not limited to the Steelers (they are one of my top three favorite teams). This was the super bowl match up I wanted and it should have been a much better game for all of the reasons that we all know. Officials can not have an affect on the outcome of any sporting event! And, let me clarify this point; affect on the outcome has nothing to do with win or lose, it means that an official’s call can not have an affect on the end result of the game, period. Let the pro, trained, highly skilled, fine tuned athletes play their game! That’s what they are paid to do. With the available technology there is just no excuse for poor officiating. Honestly, I’m puzzled by your complete willingness to accept such inadequacies and mediocrity. Nobody wants to see the results of the super bowl changed. Nobody in the Northwest would ever accept that. There would be a greater outrage if that actually occurred, not that it ever would. We are talking about going forward. Are you really that settled with the level of officiating?

What inadequecies? Last time I checked, we are all humans and we are not perfect, everyone makes a mistake. And the fact of the matter is, all the calls Seahawks fans are bringing into question are judgment calls where there was no clear call either way. They made a split second judgement. We have the benefit of watching the plays over and over in slow motion, they dont have that luxury when calling penalties. Also, there was at least one, possibly two, fumbles that could have went to Pittsburgh in the SuperBowl, but did not. I remember one play where I believe your tight end caught the ball clearly, took a couple steps, had the ball knocked loose, and Pittsburgh picked up the ball. Pretty clear that it was a fumble, however it was ruled an incomplete pass on the field, Seattle retained possession. And, also for that matter, the Hasselback fumble. I'm going to use the Seattle logic on this one. Hasselback fell on his own accord, larry foote barely grazed him, had no effect on the play, so it should have been a fumble that Pittsburgh recovered (the "Seattle" logic i refer to is in regards to the Pass interference call in the endzone.. while you're reciever pushing off probably didn't have an effect on the play, it was nonetheless a penalty and the correct call by the book, even though it didn't effect the play). And Seattle had multiple chances to move the ball and score more points. The fact is, the only time Seattle got a TD was when they got the ball on the Steelers 20 yard line. While looking at the stats, you can see they outgained the Steelers, but most of their yards came on their own side of the 50 yard line. Pittsburgh stopped them around mid field quite often, and then Seattle punted the ball out of the back of the endzone. Seattle just didn't make the plays, and pittsburgh did. The officiating didn't determine the outcome of the game.

Wow, dude, you are thicker than a piece of lead!

No i think thats you. You wanted facts, I gave you facts, and all you can do is say something meaningless like that.

b's analyse of the game is one of the most complete I have seen. As for all of us Seattle fans we should be ashamed of ourselves. This is the way we represent our great city by crying and blaming the refs for a game we clearly lost. What ever happened to good sportsmanship? What are the lessons we are teaching our children? We sound like a bunch of redneck inbreds who aren't even smart enough to comprehend how coffee is made. Way to go seattle! I hope you are proud of yourselves.

b's analyse of the game is one of the most complete I have seen. As for all of us Seattle fans we should be ashamed of ourselves. This is the way we represent our great city by crying and blaming the refs for a game we clearly lost. What ever happened to good sportsmanship? What are the lessons we are teaching our children? We sound like a bunch of redneck inbreds who aren't even smart enough to comprehend how coffee is made. Way to go seattle! I hope you are proud of yourselves.

b's analyse of the game is one of the most complete I have seen. As for all of us Seattle fans we should be ashamed of ourselves. This is the way we represent our great city by crying and blaming the refs for a game we clearly lost. What ever happened to good sportsmanship? What are the lessons we are teaching our children? We sound like a bunch of redneck inbreds who aren't even smart enough to comprehend how coffee is made. Way to go seattle! I hope you are proud of yourselves.

b's analyse of the game is one of the most complete I have seen. As for all of us Seattle fans we should be ashamed of ourselves. This is the way we represent our great city by crying and blaming the refs for a game we clearly lost. What ever happened to good sportsmanship? What are the lessons we are teaching our children? We sound like a bunch of redneck inbreds who aren't even smart enough to comprehend how coffee is made. Way to go seattle! I hope you are proud of yourselves.

b and D,you both humor me with your Idiotic logic,you both obviously didnt watch the replay with an open mind.The bottom line is that we were robbed and you cant say nothing to change our educated minds.The whole sb was a joke and I hope the nfl will learn from this to make the playing field even.

seattle: the city of whiners
pittsburgh: the city of champions

'nough said

every thing I say is reality.you take your championship you didnt deserve and enjoy it.

everything you say is reality? what reality would that be?

quit whining, why are you being such a sore loser?

did the refs cause seattle to drop passes?
did the refs cause seattle to miss 2 field goals?
did the refs cause seattle to give up a 76 yard run to willie parker?
did the refs cause seattle to bite on the trick play the steelers ran?
did the refs cause hasselback to throw the interception?

hmm.. i think the answer to all of that is NO! Seattle did all of that themselves. They repeatedly screwed themselves over, not the refs. You are so eager to proclaim the 'fixing' of the game that you conveniently look over the many mistakes your team made. If you knew anything about football, you would not be whining.

yes we did make some mistakes I admit,but it was the timely mistakes by the refs that turned the tables on us.Get a drive going--BULLSHIT CALL, get another drive going--BULLSHIT CALL.These kind of momentem swings killed us.you can BLOW all the hot air you want,this is a free country.Im tired of arguing with people that try to state facts that would have never came into play if we werent dominated by the refs.Please take a closer look at the replay before you open your MOUTH again.

lol i'll open my mouth whenever i damn well please. and i'll wear my super bowl champions shirt and hat whenever i damn well please as well. sucks for you that you cant do that, unless you're wearing a steelers shirt. hahahahahahahaha

and for the record, you are the one blowing hot air. good teams can over come these things. did you SEE the steelers-colts game? same situation.. steelers get momentum.. BAM a penalty calls it back.. what did the steelers do? they overcame them and won the game. seattle just wasn't as good as the steelers. cry all you want, the lombardi trophy is in pittsburgh, not seattle, and THAT IS REALITY, BUDDY!

steelers overcame one bad call in indy and poor little Joey cried his eyes out.seahawks are the better team and had a far more higher hill to climb against those refs(may I add one was a pittsburg native)thats just wrong!!!didnt I say this is a free country,so you brag all you want about your meaningless trophy.PEACE OUT

there was more than just one 'bad' call in the indy game, the nfl just admitted to one being blatantly wrong. the other ones were very iffy, and all went against the steelers, and thus they still won. and last time i checked, the lombardi trophy wasn't meaningless, so thats just dumb. lol

YOURS IS lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

well if your lack of intelligence allows you to believe that, good for you. but in 2 years, no one will remember anything but pittsburgh winning, except for a few loser seahawks fans.

goooooooo steelers!

your a typical pittsburg fan,I feel sorry for you.I just happen to have a Masters degree.Now please go away.SEE YOU NEXT YEAR,GO SEAHAWKS!!!

and you are a typical seahawks fan, but i really don't feel sorry for you lol. i'd think that after losing year after year you guys would know how to handle it. i guess not though. and i'll just happen to have 2 masters degrees in two years, so shove it (and for someone with a masters degee, you still do not know the difference between 'your' and 'you're').

2 masters degrees in 2 years,must have received yours in a "CRACKER JACK" box.

As a charger fan, I was pulling for the AFC to win the big one again, but the way I saw Super Bowl XL, the fans were the losers. Every time Seattle was b!%ch slapping Pittsburg around the ref's with a smaller version of the terrible towels wrangled Seattle back to ensure the one for the thumb. Everything I hear from the NFL and TV/radio affiliates that have close ties to the NFL (Sirus, ESPN, ABC, NBC, CBS, and the others) spin this game as a legitimate Steelers win. Believe me I know propaganda and you have to be mind numb not to recognize this or a blind Steelers fan (probably from hitting too many stalactites).

As far as I can tell none of the announcers have any experience in analysis of imagery, and are just spinning to keep their jobs, and the more I watch the game the more concerns me. If there's one bad call it tarnishes the legitimacy of a game a little, then a couple of bad calls the game has to lose its legitimacy, and several bad calls and no calls reeks of conspiracy. Look at the play by play Seattle had 3 drives in the first half impacted by the stealers. The 2nd drive with a holding call forced Seattle to punt, the 3rd with offensive interference forced Seattle to kick a field goal, Ben’s touch down that wasn’t showed a late call from the ref but the camera didn’t show the ref and Ben exchanging wink’s, and the end of the half with Jackson's foot hitting the pylon were 3 that stuck out to me. Then the second half there's too much to list especially the non-off sides calls.

I hope this never happens again and that the NFL cleans up its act immediately. BTW, the only way the NFL will clean up their act is for the Fans to never forget Super Bowl XL and that it will always live as a turning point in the history of the Game. We'll have to hit them were they live and that's their wallets. I'm canceling my “Sunday Ticket”, and “Sirus” for starters and recommend all do the same. If you’re one of those troglodytes that think other wise I hope all of your team’s games goes the same as Seattle’s way and that your team isn’t afforded the opportunity to play by those stealers with stripes……

My condolences Seattle, I only hope this fate doesn’t fall upon the Chargers!

thank you Sal for your neutral point of view.I agree that the "winner" was decided well before the kickoff.The hype,the bus,the chance for some to make a coin,the pittsburg native as a ref,the "feel good story",must I go on? Thanks again.I hope you don't get bashed by the shallow few.

i've been in college 3 years already, and i took numerous college courses in high school, i am well advanced in terms of my degree.

and there are TWO issues here: #1 is whether the refs made the correct calls or not, and #2 is whether or not the nfl intentionally 'fixed' the game so the steelers could win.

now on issue #1, there can be debate. there were a lot of close judgement calls that could have gone either way, if they had went your way you wouldn't be complaining, thats how it always is. on issue #2, the nfl does not fix games. period. no questions asked, no further discussion needed.

but however you feel about #1, don't take away from the steelers. you can go through the what its all you want... pittsburgh got it done when they had to, seattle did not.

and if you believe the nfl fixed the game, then you are beyond reason already.

If you want to get technical college boy,#1 where in the english language does it say you can start a sentence with and,#2 I was taught in grammer school to always proof read everything before you hand it to the teacher(like ifs instead of its)GOT THAT COLLEGE BOY.Now lets talk football.No one said that the N.F.L. was cheating or fixing the game.The N.F.L.may be guilty of a coverup by not investigating our concerns .It is very possible that those refs may be crooked,DO YOU AGREE?Lots of money at stake for a part time ref,what would they do fire them?LOL.Most of these so called judgement calls should have gone our way,most of them so obvious #1 hold on locklear when the defensive end was off sides(meaning free play-first down on the 2. #2 If above #1 was called correctly then matt wouldn't have thrown the interception and given a 15 yard penalty for illegal block when he was tackling.#3 the no touchdown when Jackson caught the ball,had 1 foot in and the other foot hit the pillon while the ball crossed the goal line.This play was reviewable but our guys upstairs said the cameras didn't have a good enough angle.The push off on Jackson was also a judgement call which could have been a t.d. Michael Irvin admitted on national t.v. that he made a living at creating space by pushing off.why call it now ,it wasn't that obvious,they could of called grabbing on the d.b. You said steelers got it done? The seahawks suffed them all day.they had 3 play,what are you talking about.The seahawks moved the ball with ease most of the day,minus the dropped passes.The bottom line is that our momentum was broken each time we would get in or near scoring position.Is this a coincidence,I think not.How can you steeler fans tell us to quit whinning and not say anything when this game should have been ours."GOT THAT COLLEGE BOY".don't you have some studying to do? GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

oh so you think you're so much better than me because i am in college? haha ok whatever. i'm going to get 2 masters in engineering, and i have a 4.0 gpa, so whatever. i'll be making 70K+ in 2 years, straight out of college.

but anyways, NO I DO NOT AGREE, the ref's arent crooked. seattle killed their own momentum, not the refs. as has been stated before, really good teams overcome penalties, seattle did not. dont try to tell me this isn't true, pittsburgh did it against the colts (and yes, there was more than one close call in that game). so basically you are saying that seattle wasn't good enough to overcome anything, basically. hahahahaha.

That is good that you will have a great job after college,they say hard work pays off. :) . Seattle would have had to play the best game in N.F.L. history to overcome those odds.It would be like taking a butter knife to a gun fight.Don't get me wrong,the steelers had a great year.The Seahawks had thier best year ever and can't wait for next year!!! GO SEAHAWKS

actually, if seattle had caught most of the passes they dropped, made the field goals they missed, and got a little luck or made a few plays at the end of the game, they would have had a very good chance of winning. seattle missing 2 field goals were as much of a momentum killer, if not more, as all the penalties were.

Seattle has a potent offense leading the N.F.L. this season.Seattle also was the least pentelized team in 05.The Seahawks proved they could move the ball with ease in the Superbowl.We catch 2 of the dropped balls and see no flags on half the bad calls against us,we would have won the S.B.Two missed field goals wouldn't have come into play and Matt would have been kneeling to run out the clock.What is your next argument- (if)and (would have)? The bottom line is we feel the way we feel and there is nothing in this world that anyone can say to change this,but see you next year.Good luck in school and study hard!!!

For everybody who has thier views slanted to their own team let me state the obvious.
1. D.J.pass interference in the end zone, he did it, he extended his arm into the db's chest right in front of the ref. As for Irvin is he not the same guy who defends TO. Chris Carter and Chris Collingsworth were both receivers and they agree with the call, and as far as the so-called contact or pass interference on the db it did not happen . Watch the game, be objective.
2. The phantom fumble of D.J. It could very well have been a fumble not a non catch, but it was ruled a non catch and was not red flagged by Cowher so the play stands. This is a non issue.
3. The phantom TD of Ben R. This was actually too close to call, even in stop action. I'm being perfectly honest I can't tell if he got in, but I do know that on close plays the refs have always took time to make the call. I am saying that this call could have went either way and neither team was going to be happy if the outcome went against them. Once this call was made there was no way it was going to be overturned, no conclusive video.
4.The pylon TD. This is actually the most obsurd gripe of the Seattle fans, to have possession a player must have control of the ball and both feet in bounds, unless he is forced from the field by a defender. The pylon is an extension of the plane of the goal line. I've read blogs that stated that M.Vick scored by touching the pylon, this is correct, but, he first established possession of the ball and had both feet in bounds. This call is not even in question.
5.Ben R. being blocked in the back on his Interception. This was borderline in being called or letting the play stand. To me at least it looked like the blocker got him first on the side and as he fell his back was more to the defender. A judgement call or perhaps it just happened so fast the ref didn't see it. I for one am glad it was not called, imagine the whining about that one.
6.The hold on Locklear. Was Haggans off side or did he time the snap. Its close, even on replay and the ref did not have access to replay. Theres no replay on this as it was a non-call. Now did Locklear hold, Yes he did , he wrapped his arm under his chin after Haggans was clearly by him, Once again this happened in front of the ref. Now if you want to say this should not have been called thats your choice, you want to say this happens every game, again your choice, but to say that this was another blatant attempt to screw the Seahawks from a score is crazy. The ball had not even been thrown yet when the flag came out.
7.The call on Matt was the most obvious bad call of the night. It should never have been called and once it had the crew should of conferred and changed it. The same thing was called on Randel El in an earlier playoff game. Indy I think. Still this does not make it right.
8. I've read where some referred to the trick play and said that Ben did the same thing as Matt. Ben clearly blocked the player above the waist and from the front. Come on open your eyes and cry foul only when there is one.
9. The Steelers benefitted more from Seattle miscues and 3 big plays more than the refs. The Steelers won in spite of the worst playoff performance of thier young QB., in spite of having more turnovers, in spite of being stopped by an excellent Seattle off line from thier normal blitzes. But yet they won with three big plays on offence, two timely sacks, and benefitted from a partsian crowd. Too say they won only from the help of the referees shows the hurt of the loss, but it does not cheapen thier victory ,it only shows how some fans cannot accept that perhaps on this day maybe the best team did or did not win, that stats do not win games(look at earier in the year at the NY Giants and Minnesota game)sometimes the teams are evenly matched and all it takes is one mistake or one perfectly executed play to make a difference.But to just say without any doubt that the game was rigged, all I can hope for is that it is investigated and those who say this will still have that opinion regardless of the outcome.

Seattle was not the least penalized offense in the NFL. Carolina and Denver were tied for 1st and Atlanta was 3rd.

Our views slanted? "oh no",not another bias steeler fan!!! What tape or game did you review? The db didn't grab,he was attempting to grab as dj pushed with an extended arm.this is 75% of the time a non call,why call it now? we will give Ben his t.d. even though he said he didn't get in.Like I said before,I dont know what tape you watched but the d.e. was off sides period.Seans"phantom" holding call was a judgement call that should not have been called period. we agree on one play that Matt through an illegal block when he was tackling,who's rule book did that came from? The S.B. was handed to the steelers,I dont care what anybody says.We couldn't overcome those 4 or 5 "blatant" calls that each time stopped our momentum.We can say all we want about the "would ofs" "could ofs" and "should ofs" but in my eyes the steelers s.b. win was handed to them. P.S.-the N.F.L. needs full time refs to call games and a home town ref should never work in a game that his home town is playing,( THATS JUST WRONG!!!)

Dear what do you know: let me correct myself,seattle was 1st in the (nfc) in least penalty yards and third in the (nfl) in least penalty yards in 2005.Where you got those stats on carolina,denver and atlanta is beyond me? in nfl (1st Indy) (2nd denver) ((3rd seattle) in total team yards, offense and defense

doesnt matter who was least penalized in the regular seaon. it was a non issue. the officiating was a non issue, really. if you could watch the game from an objective viewpoint, you'd see that most of the calls were 'nitpicky', but nonetheless, technically, by the book, correct calls. the only thing that makes the refs horrible, in you view, is that more of these 'nitpicky' calls went against seattle. the pass interference in the end zone was pass interference. Straight from the NFL rule book on NFL.com:

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

(c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

I believe 'b' would apply here. He pushed off, created separation, made the catch. Would he still have caught it if he hadn't pushed off? Probably, but he pushed off, committed the penalty, so it doesn't really matter.

And you can say all you want about Seattle's offense.. granted they were great all year, but so was Pittsburgh's defense. And Pittsburgh's defense shut down 2 of the most potent offenses in the NFL completely (Indy and Cincinatti), and then Seattle in the Super Bowl. How many times did Seattle have to punt? (And I don't really care how many yards they gained before they punted.. they had to punt, so they didn't get it done) And how many times did Seattle have chances to pin the Steelers deep, only to punt the ball out of the end zone? A hell of lot more times then the Steelers did. You can look at all aspects of the game.. Offense, Defense, Special Teams, Pittsburgh outperformed Seattle in each of these (Offense is close, but Pittsburgh put 21 points on the board, so obviously, they did more than Seattle).

Talking about objective points of view,you obviously can't walk your talk.You are taking up alot of space on this blog and not saying one damm thing objective.You can brag all you want about games before the superbowl,but Seattle out played the Steelers on offense and defense.We led in yards,turnovers and time of possession.Thats the first time in s.b. history a team has lost after leading in all 3 categories.Your defense didn't shut us down,a few dropped passes and the INCOMPETENT,BIAS REFS DID.Thats right I said " THE INCOMPETENT, BIAS REFS.Talking about punts- we had 6 each.penalty yards (SEATTLE 7 FOR 70) (STEELERS 3 FOR 20)GO FIGURE.NO WAY IN HELL SHOULD THE REFS SWAY A GAME,ESPECIALY THE S.B. LET THE PLAYERS DECIDE THE OUTCOME.You dont have a case here pal,so why dont you convince someone else of your TRULY FINE STORY.GET LOST.

Listen buddy, theres only one statistic that matters at the end of the game, and that is the score. You can cry your "we out gained you" cries all you want, but it doesnt matter. Take all of the yards you want. You couldn't get the ball into the endzone. The league mvp, who set an all time record for touchdowns in a season, WAS KEPT OFF THE SCORE BOARD. That had nothing to do with the refs. Sure he had 90+ yards, but he never broke a big play or came close to the end zone. Pittsburgh CONTROLLED the Seattle offense. Sure, you're not going to hold them without a yard, Pittsburgh let them have yards, but stopped them consistently before they could score a touch down. That sounds pretty dominating to me. Seattle can't say the same. The Steelers only got into the red zone twice I believe, but the Seahawks gave up quite a few big plays. And special teams isn't even a contest. So how you can say that Seattle outplayed Pittsburgh is beyond me.

And you are the one crying the conspiracy theories, you're the one without a case. I have the most damning evidence, and its the final score.

I know its been said before in many ways... but the game was not decided by the teams on the field and the nfl knows it...

Perhaps it was decided as much by the coaches on the sidelines as the players on the field, kevin, but it was NOT decided by the officials.

Lets get this straight,you are not my buddy NERD.I'm tired of going over the same issues with you.Some one needs to put you in your place.Your only argument is our dropped passes and the score.You live in a fantasy with thoughts like: the tooth fairy is real,Bonds didn't take steroids,Bush is doing a great job,Santa Clause is real and no games have been fixed in U.S. history.I will give you this much credit,if you were a neutral fan or a seahawk fan you would feel the same way as millions of us do.I've talked to people all over the U.S.and they feel the same way.I have a question: do you know what the word DOMINATED means or is this another fantasy? Steelers had 1 long run,a broken play on 3rd and 28 for a slope first down and a pussy flea flicker.NOW THATS WHAT I CALL DOMINATION LOL. In your world the Steelers defense DOMINATED our offense? Stats don't lie but alot of people do.In seattle we have the 12th man,In the S.B. the steelers had more than that.Penalties are suppose to even out,why not there? seattle 7 for 70,steelers 3 for 20, Hmmmmmmmmmmm.Like I said before,the S.B. winner was determined well before kickoff.It is a shame that the thought of this would ever cross anyones mind,but this is a greedy world and someone has to lose.We had our mistakes but played well enough to win.Lets hope the playing field is even from here on out and we POUND YOU INTO SUBMISSION.WHY DONT YOU TAKE YOUR UPPITY COLLEGE BOY ATTITUDE AND TAKE A COURSE IN REALITY !!!

uppity college boy attitude? i get the feeling that someone has issues, and i don't think its me lol but yes, i've consistently found that Seattle fans resort to personal insults, instead of focussing on the game. Now I may call people football stupid for saying the NFL fixed a game, but thats true. The NFL does not fix a game. If you can't come up with something better than calling me a "college boy" (thats not an insult either, i'm proud to be in college, furthering my education, so why you make that an issue is a mystery to me), shut the hell up.

I could go through the whole game, point out the many chances Seattle had to win the game, but it would be pointless, because you'd just say "because the refs screwed us." If I was a Seattle fan, I might think that there were a lot of bad calls, obviously, but I wouldn't blame the loss on that. And not many neutral fans do either. And yes, Pittsburgh had 3 big plays.. you can call them pussy plays if you want, but they sure beat the hell out of Seattles defense. And how many big plays did Seattle have? None. And Seattle made many more mistakes. Perhaps Seattle had more penalties because they committed more penalties. Oh I forgot, thats the refs fault. Give me a break. Everyone is tired of hearing your sorry stories. Just take the loss like a man, not like a 'pussy', as you would probably say.

If you believe that the N.F.L or the refs wouldn't or couldn't fix this or any other game then I have a beautiful waterfront home for you to purchase located in the desert of Egypt.Steelers beat the hell out of our defense? you had 3 big play,count'em 3 in 4 quarters.Now thats what I call dominating.About our big plays: we run a west coast offense which is intended to control the clock with sustained drives,if we break a run or make extra yard after the catch,great.about having issues,what are you doing here? didn't your team win the game? I'm wondering how many times you have checked this blog since your last response.Now if anyone has issues it sure isn't me.Time to take a close look at yourself.Now about the insulting part,I have all rights to insult someone who comes on to our blog and blast us with a closed mind like yours.We have legitiment concern about the N.F.L. that needs to be addressed.It is a debatable issue but come on.At least have some respect for our disapointment and loss.You're lucky I don't know you or I would put you over my knee and spank you like a red headed step-child.PEACE OUT

I'd like to see you try to put me over your knee, lol

But I do respect the Seahawks, they are a good team. Pittsburgh runs a ball control offense, other than the trick play, they are content to get 4 or 5 yards a play and wear down the defense, not designed around big plays, gadgets are just something extra to throw off the defense. Still, Pittsburgh got big plays. Regardless of the offense you run, you still need a big play here or there, especially in a close game. Seattle didn't get that. And I do have all the respect in the world for Seattle, they are a good team. However, you seem to have no respect for Pittsburgh. They beat the top 3 teams in a much more difficult conference, then beat the top seed in the NFC. Regardless of how you feel about the officiating, don't take a away from Pittsburgh's win. That is my issue. I wouldn't care about you guys whining, if you didn't give Pittsburgh the respect it deserves. Pittsburgh put together probably the best run in NFL history at the end of the regular season and into the playoffs, were playing with more momentum then anyone's ever had, and they went into the Super Bowl and won. Say what you will about the officiating, but give Pittsburgh its due respect as Super Bowl Champion.

Again with the personal insults. Are people in Seattle really that rude, or just that ignorant (or are you just that ignorant, Steve)? I'm sure Steve isn't indicitive of all those in Seattle though, I'd like to think Seattle is better than that.

However, your last statement only validates my argument. You have no logical basis for what you say, so you have to resort to making things personal. Typical of those making ridiculous claims.

It was a joke,HA HA. SETTLE DOWN!!! Didn't see the question mark? HA HA. I'm sorry if you took it wrong.Have a great day

Settle yourself down, give yourself a reality check while you're at it. GO STEELERS

sounds like I hit a sensitive nerve huh? I tried to apologize about the comment (joke)above that you took as an insult. Remember that when you point your finger at someone,there is 3 pointing right back at you. I'm sure that I'm twice your age and have done more and seen more than you could ever imagine. I've been a business owner for over 20 years and employ nearly 50 people.My annual income is over 200,000 dollars. YOU have no room to talk when it comes to insults. learn respect and never jump to conclusions and this life will be easy and less stressful. GO SEAHAWKS!!!

i don't need any life lessons from you OLD MAN (if you're going to call me a "college boy"), you are probably old and out of touch. and if you really were a business owner making that much money, i'd think you'd be better at making points, and even jokes (why are you so gay? is so middle school), but i'd think you'd also realize that its pointless to even do that in the first place. and i can talk however much i want regarding insults, but i don't think i ever started that, save saying that people are stupid for thinking the game is fixed(which they are, the game wasn't fixed, and anyone who thinks that needs to be checked out. there is a difference between thinking the refs just plain screwed up, and thinking they had 'orders' to help the steelers win. if you want to say the refs screwed up, that can be debated, and i can respect that position a little more. but saying the game was fixed, thats just silly). and no, you didn't strike a nerve, i just find this is a typical tactic of seahawks fans. when they can no longer make any halfway decent arguments about the game, they resort to personal insults. but i guess you've never been in this situation before so you guys don't know how to act really. hopefully the next time you lose (or win) a big game, you act with more class.

you are pathetic. I try to talk some sence to you and you slam me.I try to joke with you and you slam me again.Your a typical young American that needs to open his ears and shut his mouth. your know it all attitude is going to get you in trouble some day. Talking fixed,many sports have been fixed in the past- Boxing,basketball,baseball,Soccer,Olympics.Why is football special?If it was fixed,the refs would be the only ones involved in my opinion. Like I said before,you live in a fantacy world and can only see what you want to see.Now you are what I call blessed with class-(NOT).Now go wipe your snotty nose and get lost punk.

when have any of these sports been fixed recently? i fail to remember any of that occuring in recent times. Maybe when 100 years ago when you were a kid.. a lot has changed since then. but obviously you are too ignorant to see anything, and i've already wasted enough time on this blog listenting to your bullshit nonsense, and i actually have better things to do with my life than argue with idiots, so i'm out. live your live being pissed off, or celebrate the great season.. you can either look for the good and celebrate it, or be negative and be an ass. obviously, despite your "profound wisdom", hahaha, you haven't figured that out yet.

so F*** you, ass!

one example: 4 years ago at the olympics figure skating.I live my life seeing both sides of everything,reality is what you are missing. I'm happy to see you go!!! Take my above advice and roll with it.I am in my 40's and you are obviously in your 20's going on 12. P.S. An inside source told me that our teams will be playing in the regular season 2007. I can't wait for that game. Goooooo Seahawks!!!!!!!!!

The above was takin from the Seattle Times on Feb 10th..

pure speculation gary.was the seattle times writer a pittsburg native like the ref?

i see there are still some very sore losers. cracks me up, really. its the same old song and dance.. your team loses, so you blame the refs. not a native thing to seattle, but i'm sure every time seattle loses next year, it will now be the refs fault, because as we all know, the seahawks are a perfect team...

It wasn't all the refs fault,I say 20% was the Seahawks fault. The nations eyes were opened during the Superbowl so I don't believe the refs will ever try that again in the near future.That means the Seahawks should run the table next year. The Seahawks will continue to be an elite team for many years to come,you mark my words. GO SEAHAWKS !!!!

Ok, apparently Seattle isn't even smart enough to keep Alexander, or they are stupid enough to ponder the possibility of letting him go, so I wouldn't hold much hope for next season. If Seattle was in the AFC, they would be an average team. They are only 'elite' because of the mediocrity of the NFC.

this shows how smart you are. our line is so good and matt and our west coast offense is so good,that a average r.b. will do just fine.James of Indy is a great blocker and a good receiver,he may be an upgrade with lower contract which would free up salary to sign rocky,joe j.,manual,or mack.nice try benny or b ?

Yeah, that o-line was oh soo good in the super bowl.

seattle, at best, would get 10 wins in the afc. they'd be lucky to break 500 though.

First:How can you comment on the Alexander non signing when you don't even know our cap situation? Second:Everyone knows we have the best o-line in football,where have you been? how can you even argue this? Third:With all the cap problems of elite a.f.c. teams,the tide is ready to turn. The Seahawks are a great team and no one can take that away from us.Research by you will eliminate further embarrassment.See the above and learn something. GO SEAHAWKS !!!

the steelers dont really have any cap problems. they are close, they'll lose a few people, but they arent in anywhere near as bad a shape as a lot of the other teams.

and i can argue that pittsburgh has a better o-line. its your opinion against mine, so theres no use arguing.

i dont need to research anything. i know enough, i can see what happens on the field, thats all the research that is needed, dumbass.

Why mention the steelers,they won't make it to the ship for many years to come. It was a fluke,get over it and move on. If you are smart you will put your money on the Seahawks. I knew you would be back b,you can't seem to keep your immature comments to yourself. Did you think you could fool us by changing your name?

a fluke? i dont think going 15-1, then the following season winning the super bowl, is a fluke... and obviously you've fooled yourself, i am not 'b'. but go ahead and put your money on the seahawks, and then watch it fly out the window.

2004 was good,but we are talking about 2005.The fluke was the s.b. win influenced by your pittsburg ref and friends. Don't say quit crying or get over it because it true. That is all behind us and we pray that cheating is a thing of the past.I'm betting on the Seahawks baby!!! nice try b.

its true that seattle sucks and pittsburgh is great, and you are a moron. hahahahaha

Another purely intelligent remark b.you are a classic headcase.GROW UP!!!

There was only one obvious bad call that went against Seattle..the low block tackle
There were two obviously bad calls that went against the Steelers
The block to the back of Ben on the INT return and the Stevens catch and fumble.
I am amazed that you Seattle fans refuse to address those plays.
You can argue all you want but those outside of Seattle are split on all the other calls that you Seattle fans are crying foul over.
Pittsburgh has the best record in the NFL since 1992. I would say that Pittsburgh is no fluke and the 3 road playoff wins this season are unmatched in NFL history.
I have no problem with Seattle fans being upset or even angered at what they call..bad penalties.
The Steelers have had more than their share over the years but don't put down a franchise that stands for class and has the biggest fan base in the NFL..A city that has a population of 320,000 has a bigger following than any other NFL team. The Steelers have sold more merchandise this year than any other Superbowl team in the history of the NFL. The team, the fans and it's ownership are the best and the finale score will always read..Pitt 21 Seattle 10. You can snivel all you want, thanx for being a part of NFL/Steelers history..

Thank you, Gary!

There again is another one sided view.ONE BAD CALL AGAINST SEATTLE,"ARE YOU NUTS".You need to take elementary mathematics.Most of the bad calls against Seattle you don't want to see and were ticky-tac penalties that shouldn't have been called in the first place. It's like the nba veteran that gets the call in favor of the rookie.A veteran pitcher gets the strike call when its a ball.GET MY DRIFT. Americas team,The feel good story,The bus comes home,GET MY DRIFT.This shouldn't be an influence on the biggest game in sports.Its a shame. I'm not taking anything away from Pittsburg,they are a great team but "come on". You forgot that the Seahawks led in time of poss.,yards,and turnovers,and still lost.First time in nfl history that a team lost after leading in all three categories.Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.I watched the replay several times and saw steelers holding all game.But were these called,NO. Hmmmmmmmm.Seattle lead the nfl in sacks and had one.Hmmmmmmmm. Did you forget about when ben let the play clock run out but no call.Hmmmmm. You said matt did the same and the replay shows he didn't. SEE- CLOSED MINDS WITH TUNNEL VISION. Your team won, "WHY ARE YOU HERE TRYING TO CONVINCE US"? The problem is you don't know if you deserve it. I'm tired of your insults when we have a legitimate beef. Like I said before,"You go enjoy your championship that was handed to you" and hope if there is a next time the players can decide the outcome. I hope the refs get what they deserve!!!, especially the pittsburg native ref,Hmmmmmmm.P.S. Seattle population is nearly double that and the Seahawks fans put the Steelers fans to shame.P.S.S. SCREW YOU b.

Pretty sure every Steelers road game, there are 10,000-20,000 Steelers fans there AT LEAST. Sometimes more. The Steelers have had road games where their fans outnumbered their opponents, still. Don't think Seattle can say the same.. Who has the better fans? hmmmmmmmmm, obviously its Pittsburgh. Just because you bitch about the game that your team lost, that does NOT make you better fans. GET MY DRIFT? Pittsburgh has been through a lot of up and down years, many more up than down, but still, we stick with them NO MATTER WHAT. In Seattle, I know there are a group of die hard fans, but most of the fans right now are bandwagon fans who won't care about the Seahawks when they lose Alexander and start losing again. GET MY DRIFT?

I don't really give a rats ass about any stats, and neither does anyone else really, because you can look at those all you want, it doesn't change the final score. You don't get 10 bonus points for leading time of possession or anything else. So take your stats and shove them up your ass, unless you have something else up there already.

And for the last time, I AM NOT "b". I guess I can see why you would think that, but you are wrong.

b, Your road fan stat is simply impossible.The road teams cant even get thier hands on that many.Have any more wild stories for us,We need a good laugh.LOL. Stats are what win ball games or people wouldn't talk about them. Stats are one thing you don't want to talk about, isn't it,isn't it,isn't it? And again about your nasty grade school comments,they show how young and dumb you are. Your only arguement is the final score and that was given to you.LOL.

The only argument needed is the final score. Stats are meaningless. Talk about them all you want, it doesn't matter. Doesn't bring the goods to Seattle does it? You can whine, moan, bitch, complain all you want, Pittsburgh still won. You can be a complete ass, Pittsburgh still won. you can get on here and call people names, Pittsburgh still won. You can make up your little Tshirts, sign your little petitions, Pittsburgh still won. You can analyze stats and officials for the rest of your life.. and again, Pittsburgh still won. So, pretty much, you're just a stubborn SOB who refuses to accept the truth. NOTHING you can EVER say or do will in any way, shape, or form give you the satisfaction it is to be from Pittsburgh. Go on, live your pathetic little life in your pathetic city, cheering for your pathetic football team. You'll NEVER know how great it is to be a Steelers fan.

I am not trying to convince you of anything. I was just trying to explain to you what the facts are and how people are looking at the game outside of Pitt and Seattle
How can anyone take you seriously or look adjectively into anything you say when you make a the statement "Seattle fans put Steeler fans to shame." Anything you say should not be allowed on this site again. All your arguments pertaining to football will be looked upon as foolishness and that of an unsound mind. You just proved my point with your font in the mouth comment. You are not looking into the game adjectively. I wonder what you Seattle fans were saying when the refs had a bad day against the Steelers during the colts game.
As far as stats go..the patriots were out gained in 2 of their 3 superbowls and I am sure other winning superbowl teams have as well.
Payton Manning puts up big #ers but he can't win most of his playoff games.
The only stat that matters is the final score.

You both don't want to look at stats,you know the Seahawks dominated and would have won barring a few mistakes and TERRIBLE OFFICIATING!!! You are both CLOWNS and can never see this game objectively,so don't point your finger at me. Our teams meet in 2007, so put your seat belts on,your in for a rough ride. GO SEAHAWKS !!!!

Superbowl stats
Dallas 27 Pitt 17
Dallas 15 1st downs 254 total yards
Pitt 25 1st downs 310 total yards
Sounds like dominance but we lost..There were a few calls that Steeler fans felt did not go our way but we did not cry a river like some of you Seattle fans.You don't remember that game or those calls because it had nothing to do with you. Close calls go both ways and it always evens itself out..Get to another Bowl and maybe you will be happier with the refs..

You say you would have won barring a few mistakes..don't you mean a bevy of mistakes..
The stats don't always indicate the outcome..
Seattle needs to draft a TE that can catch and get a coach that knows how to manage the clock.

Gary,you seem like you make sense of most of your points and I will accept that. I just cant see why no one gives the Seahawks no credit what so ever,why? I shouldn't group you together with this other Steeler fan,he is a total IDIOT!!! His name now is big ben and before it was b. I dont think ben the qb would appreciate him using his name and totally making an ASS out of himself. PEACE OUT. :)

I wanted to add about holmgren and stevens. when coach arived here our cap situation was so messed up that we were still paying for players on our team that were cut years before.It takes a while to recover from such mis-management of the cap.he is a great coach and I will stand behind him all the way.As for Steven,he was great for us all year,I dont know what happened,but I will also stand by him too. Seattle will be S.B champs real soon,they are to deep to fail much longer.

What? People have been giving Seattle credit, and all we hear is "The Steelers SUCK, Seattle DOMINATED and would not have lost if the officials didn't HAND the game to them." So don't expect for us to give Seattle any more credit if you can't give the Steelers any credit. It works both ways.

If you watch a replay of the game, instead of crying into your stat sheet, you will see that Seattle killed their own momentum just as often as the refs did. The stats sheets don't reflect momentum, which has much more to do with the outcome of the game than actual stats. And while some of the "bad" officiating did indeed hurt Seattle, whether the calls were right or not, Seattle still had plenty of chances to win the game themselves. Thats the game of football. You have to take advantage of EVERY opportunity you have to score, even if some are negated by penalties or "bad" calls by the officials. The Steelers did it against the Colts, and they did it against the Seahawks. Really, neither team played up to their potential, but Pittsburgh was able to capitalize on Seattle's mistakes, and make a few things happen themselves, an area where Seattle was lacking.

And Steve, I really am not an idiot, I was just trying to make you see how ridiculous you all sound, and I think I proved my point really well, judging by your reactions. Can't take a joke? But no, you don't really like it when other people stoop to cheap shots and thoughtless commentary, and it sure got you agitated. Thats how all the Steelers fans feel. That is why we are arguing with you.

And for the record, I do think the Seahawks are a good team, and I give them all the credit they deserve for making it to the Super Bowl. They played well in the playoffs (beat Carolina into the ground I believe), but just came up short in the Super Bowl.

I think Seattle is a good team if not a great team. I have never discredited them for their achievements. Seattle fans have been supportive and I am glad they experienced a trip to the Bowl.
I was only responding to the fans who are ripping the Steelers. The Steelrs did not solicit any help from the refs. All a team can do is play the game. There will always be questionable calls in a game and for those who feel the superbowl was fixed what were they saying about the Steelers/Colts game. I understand being upset over a SuperBowl lose..it's a bummer to come so far to lose and we always want legitament reasons if not excuses for a lose. I agree that both teams did not play up to their potential. I was expecting a classic game but for some reason it did not play out that way but as I watched the Steelers season/playoff/superbowl video I got chills and felt proud to be a fan and I will always have those memories. Seattle fans will feel that pride as well when you watch your season video..it was a great year for Seattle and If you keep that great offensive line in tact, I am sure you will be knocking on the door again.

Do I feel a sense of calm in the house? Feels good to me,how about you? I have always had respect for the Steelers in all my statements. The anger began long ago when some yahoo said the Steelers dominated and the Seahawks suck. That tends to put my blood at a boil.I remember saying that the Steelers had 3 big plays-a pussy flee flicker,which I think the Seahawks might have to add to thier play book,a bomb on a 3rd and 28 and a fluke S.B. record 75 yard run. I was just proving a point to the yahoo. The Seahawks did move the ball well, but made mistakes with long passes instead of short ball control plays, and penalties. We diehard sports fans can let our emotions get the best of us. I'm sorry if I affended anyone.The labor talks are at a stand still. I hope it doesn't effect our teams to much.LETS HAVE A GREAT 2006 SEASON !!!

"Yes I am rude and you are just another pittsburg fan with tunnel vision.We were robbed by the incompetant refs and you aren't man enough to admit it. Now you go enjoy your championship you didn't deserve"

"thank you Sal for your neutral point of view.I agree that the "winner" was decided well before the kickoff.The hype,the bus,the chance for some to make a coin,the pittsburg native as a ref,the "feel good story",must I go on? Thanks again.I hope you don't get bashed by the shallow few."

Those two statements are completely disrespectful to the Steelers. That kind of crap is what makes Steelers fans upset. (And you Seattle fans were saying that well before any Steelers fans got into the mix). Your entire argument was basically that the refs fixed the game, and nothing else mattered, and there was no doubt Seattle would have won if all the close calls went the other way. You only came up with something a little more substantial after we started arguing with you.

If all the other calls had went the other way, would Seattle have won? Who knows, its pointless to really even debate that, because it would have screwed with the momentum of the game and the playcalling, so its impossible to tell what would have happened.

Can the stats sheet tell the whole story of the game? No, there are many examples to show that it cannot. Gary provided one, I can recall a Steelers-Texans game where Houston only had 50 yards of total offense, and the Steelers had over 400, but Houston still won.

Was the game fixed? No. You can argue that the officials made the wrong calls, and even claim that that could have taken away opportunities from Seattle. But in the end, it all comes down on the players on the field to make the plays, wouldn't you agree? Seattle still had opportunities to stop the Steelers on defense and come back and score. They didn't.

I, too, apologize if I offended anyone, I was trying to make a point and show you all how aggrivating it is when someone else is like that. And if Seattle had won the Super Bowl, and a bunch of 'yahoo' fans of the opposing team went around saying it was fixed, you would be a little ticked off too.

But that was another point we were trying to make, while we realize how much it sucks to lose a big game, Steeler fans have never went around acting like all you have. Yes, Joey Porter said the game was fixed after the Colts game.. Thats just Joey being Joey. If you listen to Cowher, he complemented the officials after the game I believe, and Steelers fans left it at that. And even in games we've lost where there have been close calls, we haven't went around claiming the game was stolen from us, or that the game was fixed, because we know that Pittsburgh still had chances to win and didn't take advantage. Even if you personally think that the game is fixed, its about having class as a fan. Theres a line between loyalty to your team and absurdity, and I think the whole Super Bowl controversey has crossed that line.

Big Ben (alias b) I tried to make peace and you come back and blast me again. You are totally obsessed with this aren't you? You actually went back and read all my statements? I said all those and I stand by all those. Let me start by saying that not one of my statements were directed to the "Steeler team",but at the few fans like you that are totally RUDE and NIEVE. At least Gary makes some sense and gives the Seahawks some credit. There was alot of money to be made if you bet on the right team. How can you with 100 % confidence say that the game wasn't fixed?( not by the Steelers or the N.F.L.,but the refs).You can't can you? You talk momentum,yes our momentum each time was stalled by mistakes and "timely penalties". You have proved that there is nothing that anyone could ever say that would change some views of yours,or at least get you to open your eyes.(can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink). Your only argument is our few mistakes and the final score. I'm sick and tired of going over and over the same issues with someone that is so closed minded, rude, disrespectful,nieve, young and dumb.Take some advice from me, look at GARYS comments,and take a good look at youself.This world is going to be difficult if you don't open your eyes and shout your mouth.F_ _ k yourself.

Steve:
Gary hasn't said anything that hasn't been said already, so I don't really know why all of a sudden what he said makes any difference.

I don't need any 'life advice' from you. I honestly don't want to be anything like you, from what I can tell about you through these posts. But, you have convinced me....

The Super Bowl was fixed.

And also, Elvis Presley is still alive.

Paul McCartney is dead.

Neil Armstrong never set foot on the moon.

And aliens that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 are currently controlling our government.

I suppose you believe all of these, because they all have about the same amount of rational proof as your Super Bowl theories.

I was not bashing you. I first pointed out that you, indeed, did disrespect the Steelers. Then I just recapped how I saw everything. You took it personally. You had tunnel vision, to use your words, and saw things how you wanted to. Its not my problem that you are too old, out of touch, and close minded that you couldn't see what I really meant.

Your only argument is that the refs fixed the game(you cite the close calls), but you have no hard proof of that. I believe in this country, we follow the "innocent until proven guilty" philosophy. Has any evidence been brought about that the refs intentionally tried to screw Seattle over? Is there any evidence that they made financial wagers on the game? I haven't heard about any of this, have you? And I know, I know, you go to your precious stats sheet and say Seattle had better stats. That doesn't prove that the game was fixed, so if you want a good, sound, solid argument, you need better evidence than that. And yes, the only arguments I've bothered to think of is the final score, because thats all that really matters. You can't prove otherwise that the refs fixed the game, so what else do I really need?

I can't read between your lines,your talking out of both sides of you mouth and not paying attention. My argument with you,right now,is that you are convinced that the S.B. wasn't or couldn't be fixed.After Mikes public response to the Seahawks having to play against the stripe shirts also,why wasn't he fined? The N.F.L. knows that might open up a can of worms that may expose the truth.You need to go back and read more closely,you are basically calling me a liar if you say I disrespected the Steelers. They had a great season. What bothers me most is that you can't say one good thing about Seattle or give them the credit they deserve,but continue to bash the fans that love them. Believe me ,you wish you could be me.I am a successful business man,married with 2 great kids and 1000's of people that love me. I'm a world traveler and have did more things and have more things than you could ever imagine. GET A LIFE !!!!

You Seahawk fan can just keep on bithcen all you want and go ahead and say that the refs rigged it or whatever. I mean if the steelers would have lost i would have come up with some exuse too. that is just what losers do.

I can't believe you Seahawks fans are still crying about this. Get over it and move on with your lives. Oh that's right, you don't have lives up there in rainy Seattle. Face it, the Seahawks got beat by a better team, were lucky to even be in the Super Bowl, and probably won't go back to the Super Bowl for a very long time - if ever!!!

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