Monroe man threatened after puppy-toss video

You've probably seen the video by now (or maybe chosen not to watch it, like me). It's of a smiling man that appears to be a Marine holding a puppy up to a camera, and then throwing it off a cliff. Since it was posted on YouTube Monday, it has sparked outrage. And in online comments, some accuse a soldier from Monroe, Wash. in the act. But questions remain about whether the video is even real -- and there's been no confirmation on the soldier's identity. The Everett Herald covers the controversy today. Commenters have gone so far as to post the man's personal information and encourage others to commit acts of cyber vigilantism against him. He's been subjected to death threats and his family has disconnected their phone line. An expert from the CyberSecurity Institute told the Herald that in cases of cyber-bullying, people often think they're untraceable. But in reality, they can be tracked down and subpoenaed.

Update: Monroe family "living a nightmare" as video spreads.

Comments

If the identity of the marine is determined with out a doubt. I think threats, and acts of violence against him are fair game. Is he is so cold and cruel as to throw an innocent puppy off a cliff he should be exterminated. He is simply wasting my air.
-Ivy

But in reality, the 'Marine' can be tracked down and subpoenaed...
Especially if the video keeps pissing people off like it has been.

Personally, I think that it is a fake video. Nobody is so stupid, to not only commit, but record and upload something so offensive, while holding such a respectable position. He probably just wanted to throw people off for laughs.
Or maybe he actually did it and just wants to be discharged? Or maybe he is in fact a half-retarded monkey?
Either way, I'm sure we'll see the truth unfold soon. Probably from the Marine himself, since he is the one who truly knows if cruelty was committed or not. I really don't think random 'cyber-bullies', who are obviously over-dramatic high school kids, are going to be tracked down and subpoenaed for being pissed off..

If this video is not a fake, then you're observing the actions of an individual who, with the passage of time, will escalate such actions and eventually turn his hostility and pathological personality on his fellow human beings. They all usually start with innocent animals, then they move on to humans. He needs to be hospitalized and treated. It's enough to turn one's stomach...

Makes you wonder what happens when there isn't a camera on for some mental child to get his kicks.

This isn't the kind of person that should be representing the US.


Wow. Just think what two minutes of googling will find you.

Ever seen the Kick-The-Baby flash? or about the 500 equally fake, equally stupid videos.

You people are too eager to beleive whatever the hell you see.

I can't believe what a an idiot this guy is. I was horrified watching this. How would he like to be thrown off a cliff and video taped. i hope if this is a real tape, actions are taken against him when his identity is found out!!!!!

I am wondering why the Marine Corp. has done nothing so far. To disrace our country in such a manner should be punished to the full extent of the law, not to mention his sadistic behavior. It is a well known fact that most serial killers also like to torture and kill animals. I am waiting for the Marines to restore our honor and jail this sadistic pig.

If this video is real, I have absolutely zero sympathy for him or his family, and he deserves whatever he gets. The yelping noises the puppy makes as it is thrown into the air will haunt me until the day I die. To say his actions were deplorable is a gross understatement, and I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep if he actually did have something happen to him. Good riddance. There is a special place in hell for people like him, and I am ashamed to have him represent our country.

To Marine: You're there to do a job, so pick on someone your own size that actually poses a threat to you. All dogs go to Heaven, you won't.

Let's not all jump to conclusions..... like Chip says, let's not be too quick to believe everything we see. I'm sure that if they prove the video is real, the appropriate action will be taken.

And Ivy, you're just as bad as he is, encouraging acts of violence and threats, rather than justice for the cruelity. You scare me as much or more!

can any of you guys understand the stress these guys are going through after accidently killing an innocent Iraqi civilian? One way to deal with that stress is de-sensitize themself, rationalize how killing an innocent is OK. Our foreign policy forced them to learn how not to care about the death of innocent people, if they've already learned how not to care about anyone's death, how do you expect them to care about a dog?! Unless you have been through a BS war like this, non of you should try to talk from a "moral high ground" you are standing on.

Ivy,
People like you are even worst. people like you are the exactly reason why we have WAR.

Kevin, it's understandable that they know extreme stress and they are desensitized to violence, but I've also seen photos of soldiers petting kittens and lovingly holding puppies in warzones because maybe those particular soldiers need to have a moment of something normal, Something that reminds them of the pet they might have at home and to feel that again. No, Kevin, I cannot condone what this guy did. He's messed up and he needs to focus on the job at hand, as you well know, and not on an innocent puppy. I bet the inclination to hurt something innocent was already there before he even enlisted in the Marines.

muralgirl,

I don't think Kevin or any of us "condone" what the soldier did.

And no, not all soldiers conduct themselves in that manner.

And it's still to be proven to be real footage.

At the same time, people like Ivy and Sarah, should not "condone" continued violence and threats against the soldier or his family.

It makes their encouraged actions just as bad.

Yes, the soldier should be punished should it turn out to be true.

But like my mother always told me, "two wrongs don't make it right"!!!!

He will have to answer to a higher authority in the end.

Hi Animal Lover, I never said I condoned threats of violence against him or his family and I never would. I live by the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right" myself and I agree that he'll have to answer to someone, wether it be in this life or beyond. I also don't think his family should be punished for his actions, they can't control what he did..

Overall, if it is proven to be real, he will be subject to punishment beyond discharge. Cruelty, especially when recorded and viewed by the public, is illegal and punished through legal sanctions. Condone it, justify it, cry about it, it really doesn't matter because he broke the law of the country he is a citizen and supposed representative of.

So pretty much, obviously he is desensitized, I'm pretty sure anybody exposed to the trauma that many US troops have, become desensitized. You'd be dumb not to realize that. But that does not give anybody a free ticket out of making such a stupid mistake, like the one this Marine may have made, if the video is real.
And yes, if it is real, he will have to answer to a higher authority in the end, a higher authority named US Law.

It is an animal....Though certainly a sign of an unstable mental state and the Marine needs help....it IS just an animal. Amazing how animals take priority over people.

Hey Me - exactly what does "just an animal" mean? That's a kind of slippery slope I wouldn't mind pushing you off of.Thank you Pentagram. I'm not into letting imaginary "higher authority" types deal with these issues.We as a society have to exact justice ourselves, not hope for some imaginary retribution in an imaginary afterlife.

"t is an animal....Though certainly a sign of an unstable mental state and the Marine needs help....it IS just an animal. Amazing how animals take priority over people."

I wish you'd define the word animal for me, because as far as I knew human beings are animals. Humans have superior brain structure though, right? Well, I guess if you consider superior brain structure one which promotes self-centered thinking, such as religious supremacy or a disregard of fact that dogs are actually living creatures, just like you or I.

The only difference between you and a dog is that a dog doesn't need an answer to life, like ones that religion or atheism may provide. They know how to appreciate the moment and life. That is why it might piss people off to see a video like this. Human beings are horrible self-centered animals. To see one inflict harm on the helpless reminds us that we are not all that great and special.

I would personally pay a large sum of money for the privilege to push this chunk of exrement off of a four story building -- just high enough to allow him to die a slow and agonizing death, like the helpless puppy he murdered. If Jesus is just, this chunk of walking s--t will return to the US in a body bag.

ok first i would like to state for legal issues what im about to say is in my opinion what i think should happen to him. im not making any threats at all none what so ever but i live in washington to and if i ever saw him i would like to but wont knock him out take him to a cliff hold him by his neck and look at him and say awww isnt he so cute then throw him and see if he likes it sick man burn

Whomever the person is in the video, they are truly an ass.
Even if the video is a hoax, why would anyone find that funny? The man is not at all right and karma will bring it back around.
The persons making the video also shed a very poor light on our country. How dare they do something like this, hoax or not, in uniform.

Wow, the last time I checked we were all innocent until proven guilty. Good thing they don't have lynch mobs any more. If he did do this then he will be dealt with by his commanding officers! Until then, chill out!!

Right on, Gojira!!!!! Dogs love and trust UNCONDITIONALLY, and this guy? He just decides to up and toss a rare kind of devotion away as if it were garbage. And we tout ourselves as the "Superior" species on the planet? Please. We humans have sadly thrown away our own young as well. There's no BS to the animal kingdom, it is what it is. Animals NEVER kill another animal like that-for simple, stupid pleasure. Yes, a wolf pack might try to kill a lone, or sickly, malformed wolf. But a perfectly healthy pup like that? never. That's a sad, pathetic human thing. Only the human race is capable of this kind of barbaric action. Take the concept of "war" for example.. It's all about us. Period.

I think this is a disgusting display be it real or a put on prank. These men and women are supposed to be serving the U.S.A by helping a nation to be free from hate that he portrayed in this video.Not to mention being a role model for our children and the people who lovingly support our men and women over there. I'm heart broken that the sister is not more upset with her brother over this video. I do not think that the attacks on the family are right in anyway. I'm sure that they have to be facing their own disappointments in these actions. I have to wonder though if this man would do such a think to a puppy what on earth would he do to a human all in the name of war?? this man needs help. the sister is wrong about the general world. We are not putting the puppy above a human, We are worried because of the fact that a huge sign of repetitive acts of wrong towards people are from the ones who have no compulsion to do wrong towards animals. first this then what. shall we write it off that the war changed him when he comes home and kills someone? or beats them up or generally has no conscious? be real about this. he should be dishonorably discharged and seek treatment. I'm not sure if this will reach anyone or if it even matters that i wrote. I just wanted to say that this has made me very sad to think that 2 men would bring such a cold hearted taistless view to so many people who in many ways place our armed service people up on pedestals of honor. I only hope that this video does not change alot of peoples attitude towards the rest of our service people who are doing good despite the trials they must face.

I wish this sick killer to suffer at his last breath like he made the puppy suffer. The puppy was so afraid, so innocent, screamed with horror when he throwed him to death. I can never forget the scene, unfortunately I saw it in breaking news. I am blaming his family as well, how could they raise suck a sick soul? I will follow the 'David Motari' news, I am awaiting him to be penalized by the Navy. He is disgusting, inhuman.

Horrible. This video has been emblazened in my mind forever. I wish I didn't see it. My husband is a Marine who was stationed in Kaneohe and was in the Gulf War. He is a gentle man, an animal lover. This disgraces him as well as other Marines. The video is real. I really don't care if the family is suffering. They need to. They should have raised their child better. Wartime aside, this is sick. I hope he never has children.

It was very saddening & I was also dissapointed to see a young man do something so uncareing & with no thought at all!!! It made me feel as though a person like this could very well kill anything he didn't like,( maybe a child from Iraq) or anything that he felt like killing just for fun or whatever that sick person felt like doing it for. I think he's mentally ill, & God knows what else he is capable of killing if this was so easy for him to do, & so funny to see it done. He liked having attention, but for all the wrong reasons in getting it. I hope he goes to a mental institution first before any other actions are taken, I don't think his mind is all there! Maybe the hell he is going thru has fineally pushed him over the edge!!! I feel for his family, I'm sure this isn't something they have taught their son to do, & maybe they too are hurt by the things he has done. I pray he'll get help, & learn to appreciate god's creation of "animals" in a kinder manner than he has shown.

I was horrified when I first saw this and disgusted by those "soldiers" who have disgraced the uniforms they wear. That poor helpless puppy, whining pitifully as he is tossed towards his death!

And if you listen to the dreadful video you will hear an adult dog barking frantically in the background as the baby is tossed. Probably the MOTHER dog, knowing what fate is befalling her pup!

I personally would have no problem taking a bat to these idiots heads once their identity comes out. If they can do this to a puppy, I'm sure they have done much worse to innocent people when the camera is off. Looking forward to the names of these individuals being announced.

For those people who keep defending this person, please rethink your positions.

This video is not fake. Animals react to a hold exactly that way.

I hope one day, that when you get killed and footage is shown of your death, no one will have the audacity to say that the video was a fake. It’s easy to try to think from the human’s perspective, but for once, think about it from that poor puppy’s point of view. What did he do wrong to have such a cruel death? What right did his killer have to not only toss this puppy to its death but also laugh gleefully about it afterwards?

Sure, I'm not a vegetarian, but I don't kill an animal for sport.
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Now, for those who think that we should not be on higher moral ground, I hope that one day you will have this same notion when an ex-marine kills you or in this case, throws you off a cliff because he's having anxiety issues.

Wait, I forgot to mention, and laughs happily about it with his buddies because you were oh, so pathetic.

Instead of ignoring this issue, if you wanted to help these people, you would support getting them mental help. It’s one thing to kill an animal. It’s another to gloat about it and take sport/glory/entertainment in its death.

Taking away any life because you wanted to crack a joke cannot be tolerated.

Therefore, unless you’re okay with someone doing this to you, do not try to say “it’s alright” because you’re only increasing the problem.

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