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Investigating the Reality Homes story Bookmark and Share

9:59 PM Thu, Nov 02, 2006 |

Like most stories, this investigation began with a viewer tip. Someone wrote us saying they had problems with Reality Homes.

Their story was troubling. It began with many failed framing inspections and lengthy delays. However, the owners lost their case to Reality in arbitration.

We decided to give the company a deeper look. Using court documents and reports from the Better Business Bureau, the Attorney General's Office and Labor and Industries, we found more than 30 complaints in the past three years. Then we received more complaints here via email and phone...

The tough part about reporting this story was trying to put ten pounds of material in a five-pound sack.

For the sake of time we tried to boil the story down to the main issues. The contract, time delays and poor customer service. We left out former employees, a representative from Labor and Industries and a number of other dissatisfied customers.

The one consistent complaint was delays which led to other problems. Here is something we weren't able to get into in the story:

A typical house is built foundation first, then the frame. Many builders give time estimates to finish a home. Reality promises a standard home in approximately 150 days from framing. That's different from many builders who start the clock when the foundation is poured.

By the way, your construction loan also starts at the pour.

A number of Reality homeowners say work on their homes stalled at the foundation stage for weeks and even months. So the clock on their loan is ticking and Reality's clock hasn't even started moving. That's where the anxiety begins.

If construction isn't finished by a certain time, the owner could pay penalties on the loan. And in most cases occupancy is necessary to transfer a Construction Loan into a Home Loan that often has a lower interest rate. So when it takes an extra week or two or three or more to finish a home, it is a serious matter.

However, Reality has an Extension of Time clause in the contract. Thus homeowners cannot hold Reality accountable for delays on the company's end.

So if you can't get your final walkthrough because of delays, that can cost you money. Someone doesn't finish work that was promised, thus putting off your final home inspection also hurts owners. It cost one of our victims an estimated 100 dollars a day.

Phew!!! See what I mean. It takes time to go through each of these issues. Toss in arbitrators decisions, Reality's responses and upset homeowners, and you have a lot of information to fit into a few minutes.

If you have any thoughts or advice to others about home construction, jump on in. I'd love to hear from you.

(Editor's note: 11/6/06. Further comments have been disabled due to a high number of posts that violated our blog comment rules.)



165 Comments

Jeff said:

Reality Homes Should truly be called Unreality Homes. I currently have a house under construction by Unreality Homes And trust me I'm on wits end just hoping this company can actually come thru with it. The first problem they have is the fact that the contract one signs is truly a rip off. They take away all incentives on there own behalf to finish the job. Then to top it off they request payment even before the job has started much less after it is finished. Another problem they have is the amount They charge the buyer and the salary's they pay the subcontractors often the profit they make is double,For example they charge upward of $9000.00 dollars to frame your house then they pay only $6000.00 to the actual framer.The framer is getting ripped and his incentive to finish get's impeded big time thereby slowing your home down. Reality needs to change the way they relate with there subcontractors in order to continue in business i can see them falling fast due to this problem. The profits this company makes at the expense of the home buyer and the subcontractors is huge. To often Unreality Homes sell's far more houses then they are able to actually build shortly after buying our home we got a letter explaining that our home would be delayed by several weeks due to a shortage of framers The true fact is they just don't pay the framers well enough to keep them, then they use the excuse that there are not enough of them. Customer Service is non existant with this company, they will be the first to call you on the phone when it comes to asking for draws of money to pay for work that has not been completed and in some cases not even started. However if you have a complaint regarding them not starting the job or an issue with the job they have started you will grow old waiting for them to return your call.. All in all i woul never buy another home from this company. They are truly pathetic..

Charlee said:

My husband and I have been looking at building a home though reality, I have had my heart set on one of there homes. Is this a major problem or do you think the company is working to fix it?

John Broshears said:

IM asking you Mr. Jones to PLEASE do a story on similiar companies such as HiLine Homes. I have been searching for affordable stick built contractors for over a year now and your story has scared me. For me it was tossed up between two companies to build our house... Reality and HiLine. Reality is DEFINITELY off my list now. THANK YOU KING 5!!! I really think you've saved me a terrible headache.
~John Broshears

Paul said:

It was a long time coming that Reality homes Inc. has finally made the news. First of all, I was really happy that they are exposed because they pretty much did the same thing to my mom who waited almost two years before she even moved into her new home. Actually, all the things that was mentioned according to the news were very true. From long delays, installing cheap parts that is different from what you have requested, would not return phone calls, to structural irregularities which caused the city to fail the inspection, you name it, we have experienced it too! Reality Homes never delivered on their promise. They kept delaying my moms house to the point that they did not even finished all the things that they are supposed to. It is a good thing that I bought a new house instead of signing with Reality homes to build a new house on my previous property. I can tell you and I agree on the news that the work that they do is the worst that I have ever seen and I would never ever in my wildest dreams get Reality Homes to build a house for me. We will definitely look into joining the long list of people who complained about their business practices to the Better Business Bureau.

As a Licensed Real Estate Broker, I want to encourage anyone that is considering building their own home via Reality Home or any other company for that matter, that before you sign any contract have it reviewed by an attorney. You have rights that the Builders do not want you to know about and most of those contracts protect them - not you. If a Builder will not provide you with a blank (voided) contract for you and your Attorney to review - RUN, RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN and don't look back. If a Builder is working with a conscience, ethics and sound business practices they should not be one bit alarmed or afraid to allow you to have a blank copy for you and your attorney to review at your leisure. Know your rights before you sign the bottom line. Hiring an attorney up front may very well save you tens of thousand of dollars down the road.
Cheryl Malicoat
Cottage Home Realty, LLC

Amy Pasternak said:

I'm wondering the same that Martha Johnson is, when will Hi-Line's story be told. My husband and I had a Hi-Line home built and regretted it after we moved in. We are very unhappy customers and know of others that purchased their homes as well. As soon as Hi-Line recieved their money from us all of their obligations seemed to go down the toilet. I guess they figured that their end of the contract didn't matter anymore. Buyer's Beware!

Gary Coppinger said:

Reality is out of control. I was leined because they don't know what is going on in their own company. No one showed up for months, and charged for work not done, everything that is said is true,everything. They don't care your getting screwed and your life is in shambles because of them. There should be a law suit, BIG one to punish them. There is way to much to list all that is going on but I can honestly say that they are dishonest and have no integrity whatsoever. They would charge me for the same work numerous times and demand payment for incomplete work. Crews showed up that didn't know what they were doing and would not come back to finish because they had another job to get to. Walls were warped, no insulation and arguments over it, it just went on....when I could finally get ahold of somebody that is. It was the worst experience of my life. There is a guy named Nathaniel who did try to help us out, he was the bright spot.

Unknown said:

Shame on you Martha Johnson. This is not a place to post your personal vendetta against a single person or the Jehovah's Witnesses church. This is about construction and a business. He is just representing the company he works for. However, I also agree, Jesse, you should do a story on HiLine as well as Adair. They all have complaints against them. Although if you go to the bbb.org and look them up, you will find that HiLine and Adair have unresolved issues and Reality has resolved issues or has atleast made an attemt to resolve all of their issues. Reality does have more complaints but we don't know the volume of homes they are building compared to the other 2. The reason all of these companies get more complaints too is because they are builder participation homes. That means that the homeowner is more involved in the construction. When you buy a pre existing home, you don't know what happened during construction and you don't know how much of your money went to the construction of the home.

Rolando Roque said:

Jesse,
My daughter got Reality Homes to build thier dream home and it has been over two years now and the home is not completely finished. The first problem came up when they found out that Reality Homes poured the foundation in the wrong place on the lot. The foundation was place encrouching the adjacent open lot. The only solution were to move the foundation to the property or buy the adjacent lot, they ended up doing the later. Another problem that we found was the wall in the master bathroom was not even straight, and with that maybe we just have accept it cuz it will never be fix.
They also like to promised work that will be done at certain time but never accomplished thier promise.

Unkown response said:

This last comment from "UNKNOWN" is obviously from a cowardly Reality Homes representitive trying to hide and point the finger at other companies to take the pressure off themselves. They should be the ones that are ashamed for proclaiming themselves as honest, "godfearing" or not, when in fact they have knowingly defrauded and continue to defraud hundreds of people. The person writes that all thier issues have been resolved, is just more proof of their dishonesty, when they know their are many many people that continue to have issues that they have no intention of trying to resolve. They are getting to the point of believing their own lies.

Bill said:

We have just finished building a home with Reality. We have had mixed experiences.

The contract - as the story pointed out, it's a terrible contract for a consumer to sign. If you are familiar with the building business you can see why they crafted it the way they did. The bottom line is that if you wanted to deal with Reality, you had to sign it. We tried to make modification but they wouldn't accept them.

The subcontractors - many of the subcontractors that Reality uses have grown tired of dealing with Reality and no longer deal with them. One problem in the way Reality works is that they use one or two subs for any particular trade, regardless of where the construction is happening. Our place is in Kitsap county and we had subs from all over the Puget Sound working on our place. This makes getting things fixed very difficult.

Work load - Reality's site supervisors are completely over loaded. Each supervisor has so many houses that he is unable to visit them all for periodic inspections to check up on the work that the subs are doing. When they do check in, if they find a problem they have nearly no power to work with the subs to correct problems.

Schedule - Reality's foundation crew started work on our place on November 3rd, 2005. We are nearly done our punch list. Yes, the Reality contract says "about 150 days" for the construction but we didn't come anywhere close. We had no change orders and no customer induced delays so there is no way that Reality can point a finger at us.

I don't know what to call this one... maybe, "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing". The various parts of Reality Homes seem to work independantly of each other even though they work in the same office. For example, we received a bill for the final payment and that bill contained many many items that were not delivered, installed or completed. We pointed this out to Reality and didn't pay the bill. The folks in billing were surprised and apologetic. We wrote letters, made phone calls and did everything we could think of to get the work done so we could make the final payment. It too 2 months for them to knock out a bunch of little items like mirrors, closet shelves, and door knobs.

Now this Keystone Cops routine can work both ways for a consumer. It's terrible in one way because most folks have the clock ticking on their construction loan and don't have time to fool around with stuff like this. On the other hand, we withheld the final payment (which is against the contract we signed with Reality) for over 2 months and they didn't say anything about it. Also, it took us a while but we finally figured out that we could call into the office and talk directly to the Reality employees that did the subcontractor scheduling and pressure them to get work done on our project.

In the end we have a nice house. I guess we were lucky. We have learned the hard way that the squeeky wheel definitely gets the grease from Reality. If you sit back an wait for them to do their job, nothing will happen. But if you get on the phone and politely work directly with the employees that do the scheduling with the subs, you can get things done.

I'm curious, though, about the home warranty. No mention has been made about the warranty that Reality provides. It appears to be held by a third party company. Has anyone had experiences, good or bad, with the warranty company?

Frank K said:

sounls like a good time to call in a special deputy attorny from Washington state to put the finger on Reality homes...why is such a scam allowed to happen or to continue to have that buisness licence to washington state..unless reality homes has a pack of lobbyists in Olympia.

guess there has not been enuf victims before the state steps in to correct this behavor from a buisness...

April said:

My husband and I have been wavering on the thought of having Hi Line build our home. This story has opened my eyes. Please do an additional story on other "affordable" home builders like Hi Line. This information needs to be readily available to the consumer before they are locked into a contract. I was only able to locate one complaint against Hi Line at bbb.org.

Jeff said:

The only thing i can tell you from experience is they at this time don't really seem to think on customer service maybe they will change after hitting the big time (The nightly News) But something else that has not been said is the ridiculous prices they charge for everything for example they allow 25 yards of concrete for the foundation and footings sometimes you could need more if you do be prepared to pay, they charge 300 dollars for each extra yard of concrete. Again Unreality to the rescue.. Considering a yard of concrete if you were to buy it cost's somewhere near 80 to 90 dollars again you do the math! They allow you if i remember right 3 phone jacks if you want another one you will pay an additional 150 dollars per phone jack now trust me you could put it in for about 20 dollars yourself but your contract will forbid it Why? again Unreality to the rescue.. Should you choose to go with your unreality dream home remember you could be in for a nightmare!

dave said:

amoral, arrogant creep WOW

Craig Lazarus said:

Jesse,
I'm sorry I wasn't also contacted for your story on Reality Homes. Our story is clearly in the same catagory as those you reported. Reality took three months to begin the foundation once we notified them we were ready following the dig out. Seven months later they still had not passed the framing inspection or the plumbing inspection, and it took them three tries to pass electrical. Along the way the home was red tagged by King county, there were structural defects they refused to repair and the permit had to be extended as well as our loan which was good for only eight months, usually enough time to build a home. We had three framing crews, and three 'Project Supervisers'. When their 150 days from the start of framing ran out in June we were forced to find another contractor we could afford and are doing much of the work ourselves, racing to meet the next closing date of the loan extension. Reality has also put a lien on our property. That is the short story. This experience has been a nightmare for us.
Craig Lazarus & Family
Vashon Island

Jeff said:

WOW! Martha I Guess You Covered it all.. The sorry thought is i have to agree!!

Bryan said:

I've considered building a Reality home so I am glad to hear some truth revealed. I have already built a Hi-Line and was completely satisfied with the service, and quality of work. Of course there were a few issues along the way but I guess one might need to consider that you get what you pay for.

Mr. Reality said:

DON'T BELEIVE THESE PEOPLE
HERE'S THE TRUTH

ABOUT OUR COMPANY
The principles of Reality Homes, Inc. have over 70 years of construction experience. As natives and family members to the Pacific Northwest they recognized the need and market for affordable new home construction. From our very beginning we were able to draw from our years in the business and surround ourselves with a team we feel is second to none. From our subcontractors and suppliers, to our knowledgeable sales staff, scheduling and on site field superintendent personnel, we demonstrate professional excellence.


We take great pride in building homes of exceptional design and value. We are also committed to providing a pleasurable experience for all involved as we partner together with you on your new home.

“We look forward to building with you soon!”

Jeff said:

This is in Reply To Unknown! you claim that the homeowner is more involved in the construction. You are correct the homeowner who purchases a reality home is responsible for the hard part of the construction Water,septic,and power. Reality homes will not even start construction til water and power at least, have been put in. So that makes reality homes responsible for the easy part and as you can see by the very comments written here they are not able to even do that! As far as having more complaints then anyone else and you not knowing how many houses they build in comparison. I have to ask why would that matter? You can either build the houses you sell or you can't. It is that simple, and as far as that goes if you can't finish the houses you start then the common denominator would tell you STOP selling houses till you finish the ones you have started is that such a hard thought to figure out? The bottom line is Reality homes is nothing more then a Reality ripoff whether they are Jehovah Witness or not! My suggestion would be to fire the entire management and rethink the entire approach to customer satisfaction ( oh Wait what am i thinking they have no such thing as customer satisfaction!)

Heidi Mausten said:

What I find extremely pathetic about this story is obviously the media has nothing better to do... The fact of the matter is in any business there is always complaints and unhappy customers. As we all know there is other builders out there and I am sure they all have unhappy customers. I work in the car business and as we all know it has a bad wrap. If we actually take what every unhappy customer said about car dealers, then we might as well close the doors on selling cars too. Point being is it is impossible to make every customer happy and I really think King5 news has spend to much time on the Reality Homes story. Come on it was mentioned on your station for at least a whole days before it was aired. If you are going to do a story like this then maybe it should involve ALL builders. ( Lets be fair about this) It is completely ridiculous to pin point Reality Homes when if you did some research you would find that there is other builders out there that have unhappy customers too. How about we focus on some real stories. Ones that are of real importance.....
One more thing what does religion have to do with any of this. Whomever is bringing religion into this is one extremely desperate individual that needs to focus on the real issue at hand.

John said:

If anyone wants to sell their Reality Home for what they paid for it please leave a post.

Elizabeth said:

Wow. My husband and I were considering getting a home built by Reality. We had not read the contract yet. I'd be loathe to sign a contract that gave a contractor an open-ended check with no liability for lack of performance AND that requires payments to be made when not tied to completion. How does the construction loan allow this...I thought it is tied into completion? Remember that I am new to the concept of building a home and am learning so can ask such stupid questions I hope.

One lesson learned though: Have good attorney review contract. I wonder again if we are going to wind up going with a manufactured. I know they carry stigma for not being as good as "stick built" but if stick built means covered up mistakes and incorrect fittings, wiring, etc. along with ridiculous delays, the mass production of manufactured home construction begins to sound better.

I shall have to discuss the contract with the Reality sales rep. How does one find out the name of other companies that construct on one's property?

Julie said:

That's not the point! Just because housing prices have gone up and Reality makes an affordable home that is worth more than you pay for it doesn't account for the hassle! Having a custom home built should be as easy as buying a new car. Pay your money and walk away with a new house.

Jake said:

Okay! Okay! to be fair to this attempted to build homebuilder Reality Homes, Let us hear from the satisfied customers (if there is such) this would be in reply to Heidi's request as she points out King 5 has put alot of time into this so far one sided story. So therefore i would like to hear the positives of this company.. lol yeah right..

Donald Lehman said:

Jesse,
Thank you so much for exposing Reality Homes. My story,while discussed on your report, is so much more involved and really needs to be told.I will try to list the main issues here and let any future home buyer decide for themselves if Reality is the builder for them.
I will start at the begining of my Reality experience and just state the facts from my lawsuit for all to see. First my contract was altered by Mr Jamie Hankel of Reality without my knowledge or approval and this eventually led to their price increase of $9,747.00 ( with no justification, none). Second, the drawings that Reality based my home on were not designed to meet even minumun Building Code Requirements, and even if they had been, Reality did not follow those drawings, such as using 12'-0 floor joists instead of the drawing specified 34'-0 joists.
The framing subcontractor, Jacob Myers framed my home but was not a licensed contractor thru WA. State L&I. Reality said they "didn't know", but
one has to ask,why not? Third, they failed framing inspection 4 times over the next 3 month
period, and finally "terminated the contract" with the home still in a failed condition.
I had to quit my job in the Seattle area and move to Grapeview and finish the home myself
(along with my son,Brian). Less than a month after they left the site, they filed a lien on my home and then finally file a lawsuit as if I was the guilty party that breached the contract.
I can tell all that are interested to not sign a contract with Reality in which "Mandatory Arbitration" is a requirement. I think you will lose every time! And if you are smart you will
run not just walk away from Reality's contract in general!
If anyone desires more information about my experience feel free to call me at 360 275-8050.
Hopefully the Attorney General's office will
finally understand what the people of this state have been going thru and will do something for the people of this State. Only they can persue a Consumer Protection Act violation against Reality, I tried and lost. The Attorney General CAN put a stop to this fraud and they need to do it Now!

Paul Querro said:

Jesse,
My wife and I are currently awaiting Reality to finish our home out in Fall City. Our story is similar to everything I have read so far. We started in July of 2005 and we are now working on our punch list items. When I say working on that really means I call and find out what should be happening but nothing does. I really doubt they will ever get finished. It took phone calls to just about everyone in the reality homes company on a daily basis to get this far. In fact the only people in the company you can regularly get ahold of are the people doing the bank draws (Go figure!!!)and these people are pro's at transferring you to other people's voice mail. I went through 4 site supervisors and all of the blamed the delays on the person they replaced. The only people you get the actual story out of are the disgruntled subs (the ones that speak english anyway). I could go on and on but it would just be the same story over again.

Joe B said:

We too have a Reality experience to share. We waited for 2 months just trying to get plans. Over that time we had 3 sets of plans that were all wrong. When we made calls to our preconstruction supervisor, calls were always returned to me, but never to my wife.

Eventually we were hit with a $5,000.00 bill for cost increases in cost since we didn't start construction within the 45 day start up window. I assumed it was a mistake and started making calls. I eventually ended up talking to Pat Epright, who told me that it didn't matter that it was their fault that we couldn't start construction. He basically told me that we signed a contract and were obligated to pay the money. When I protested he shot back with "What do you want us to do. . . build your house for free!"

To make a long story short I demanded a recision letter and eventually was released from our contract. They were a nightmare, and ultimately the thing that bothered me the most was the feeling of dishonesty and underhandedness on the part of Reality.

Luckily we just lost our deposit. Based you your listeners comments we could have lost a lot more.

Robert said:

I am having a home built by Reality as we speak. The process has been a good one and their is no way I could have had this built by anyone else for the price that I paid. Plus I have 3 friends that are also building with Reality homes and their process is also a good one. This sounds like a story of people that have nothing better to do than put a buisness down than follow up with it by spitting on their religion is very sad you should be ashamed of yourselves.....Robert

Jared B said:

I don't know who "unknown" is, but my name is Jared and I am not ashamed or afraid to say that I have worked here for 3 years. This is a great company to work for and we build great affordable houses. Many of the comments on here as you can read are from customers that are very unhappy with our homes. There are homes that have some issues with delays. Is Reality Homes not at fault? Of course not. We have made mistakes as any construction company or any type of business will make. There are also many issues that the homeowner’s bring upon themselves whether it be intentional or accidental.

What was seen on KING5 was for the most part "one-sided" in my personal opinion. With all the customers shown in the interview, they all have an issue that assisted in bringing this upon themselves. For example, one of them had, not one, but TWO chances to get out of the contract with I believe not owing anything. They refused those chances. How much more can we do then offer to rescind the contract and not owe more money are part ways. That seems pretty generous considering the circumstances.

As for Mrs. Johnson remarks, I agree with Heidi. Why bring religion and beliefs into this. Pat is a very honest and trustworthy man. He is a Witness and I am a Christian and I respect him and his beliefs. I simply don't care what others say about him.

There are some people that don't understand the pricing on some items. I know this is a small one, but with the TV jacks. $150??? Please, we charge $75. And yes, you can install your own for probably $25-35. But when you pay for that and pay the electrician to install it and of course you have to have profit....you see what I am saying? As with the concrete, concrete by itself is approx. $90 per yard, but think of the extra forms, extra rebar, the labor....again, see where I am going.

As for people who are debating of using Reality Homes, please make an effort to call a sales associate or even me at the main number. Give us a chance to explain our side of the story. You have one side from KING5 News, customer, competitors, etc. Now hear our side of the story.

KING5 said they had dozens of complaints, well out of at least building 1500 homes, don't you think you would have some unhappy customers? We don't want that here, but it is practically impossible to please everyone all the time. We do strive for that though continuously.

I feel very passionate about this. With working here for 3+ years, everyone here is like a Christian family (yes, even the JW's) Everyone here is honest and respectable. We are humans, believe it or not and do make mistakes, but we continuously strive to make it better for everyone.

As I have said, please call for the other half of the story. I will shed some light on what is happening and where RHI and other customers really stand. This is my personal thoughts of this situation. And I stand behind them and Reality Homes 100%


B Ewing said:

Come on, guys. This story was a hatchet piece. The reporter was out to get these guys, and gave them very little chance to respond. We used Reality Homes and found them to be very business-like. They said what they were going to do, and did it. I think most of these people who are whinning didn't know what they were in for in building a home. It is tough.

Unknown said:

To Ms. Johnson & Mr. Jeff, This is "Unknown" I am not an employee of Reality Homes, but my husband and I wanted to build a home but couldn't afford some of the pricier builders so we researched all 3 companies, which is what you should do before you purchase anything. I am actually a stay at home mom that runs a buisiness out of my house. My husband works full time so we decided that we didn't have the time or dedication to build a homeowner participation house. So we bought an existing house, which we have had problems with too, but realize that we are home owners and we will have problems. My parents live in a million dollar home and have had problems. We can't just call a landlord to fix them. We have to take some responsibility. I am also not a Jehovah's Witness, I am a pround Christian but that has nothing to do with this. In response to Jeff, the comparison is if Reality built 100 homes & had 5 complaints & HiLine built 5 homes with 5 complaints I think I would probably go with Reality. That is the comparison I was talking about. I am sure that Reality has some happy customers but that is not what the media wants to focus on. Have you every heard them focus a story about a home builder that didn't have any complaits?

Jared B said:

In response to Joe B. remark. We do not like to raise the price on customers. It is a hassle for us and especially them. We have to mark it up because our prices went up. We build houses for around $45 - $52 per sq.ft. We do not have alot of overhead calculated into the cost. If materials cost went up on a contractor who charges over $100 per ft, then they could absorb the cost. We can't unfortunately. And we were not asking for payment right away. Also, assuming I have the right "Joe B", when there are extensive changes to the plans it will take time to draw the plans. And it was just over a month. Plus I sent copies to confirm and got the ok to move to get them done.

Thanks to the others for the great comments!!!

Roger and Tamara Hinck said:

Thank you for your story and the blog. We are just about to start a new home in Lewis County and had thought about Reality Homes. But not now!! We will look to local contractors and definatley inspect any and all contracts so that our experience doesn't end like some of these heartbreaking stories. Thanks again.

Robert said:

I have not read every blog here but the few I have read regarding sub-contractor charges are being made from a position of ignorance. One example was on framing - the sub was paid $6000 and the general (Reality Homes) was paid $9000. This is a 33% margin, many businesses run on higher margins than this. As a general I try and have a minimum of a 35% margin on my projects. Also you must remember this, the sub-contractor agreed to this price, no one had a gun to their head. A general contractor has far more overhead than a sub-contractor and therefore they need to make money, and lot's of it. Did you know that the liability insurance for a general contractor has gone up enormously over the last five years? I am a small contractor and for the exact same coverage I have today I paid $2000 annually five years ago - that same insurance today costs $41,000 and I have had NO claims. I contractor like Reality probably pays hundreds of thousands of dollars for their liability insurance, not counting bonds, health, and other insurances.

I am not saying that Reality hasn’t done people wrong but before you start complaining about how much money they or their sub-contractors make I would do a little more research.

I am not saying that Reality has not done people wrong but before you start complaining about how much money they or their sub-contractors make I would do a little more research.

Will R said:

Let's face it - the evening news wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't entertaining, would it? What good is a story that says, "Here's the problem, but the answers are right here, so it's no big deal?"

Reality Homes built my house for my family, and we love the end result. Were there delays? Yes. Where there inspection issues? Yes.

You can talk to a small custom home builder who builds two homes per year, and he will tell you he has scheduling problems with subs. You re-schedule it and move on. Or that sometimes something doesn't pass inspection. You correct it and move on.

You can talk to any of the area's largest general contractors that build bridges and roads. Are there delays? Yes. You re-schedule and move on. Do inspections sometimes fail? Yes. You correrct it and move on.

When you are coordinating with many different companies to perform work in one location, you are bound to have scheduling issues and delays. And if everything always passed inspection, we wouldn't need inspectors, would we?

I've had the opportunity to speak personally with quite a few other Reality clients on their take of the process. Most are very happy, and they are very thankful with the great value they obtained. A few others are upset, but I take exception to most of their complaints.

One person said they tried to make changes to the house by adding additional lighting inside the house - and doing it themselves. Guess what? That homeowner's work failed inspection! Did that cause a delay? Yes! Reality Homes then promptly told the future homeowner that by performing this work themselves, it violated the contract. Uh, yes, again. Why would Reality have this in their contract? To avoid the kinds of delays this customer caused in the first place. Did the issue get resolved, and did the homeowner enjoy their new house at a fraction of what other builders charged? Yes!

Another homeowner with whom I spoke tried to have the subcontractor make changes to the framing - changes that weren't in the plans or in the contracted budget they had already agreed to pay Reality. So, who pays for those changes? Reality Homes is the general contractor, so they would have to, even though it's the homeowner's request. Of course, these changes would cause delays, and the additional costs would have to passed on to my fellow homeowner.

Do you know who the happy homeowers are that I talked to (you can tell I did my research!)? They were the ones who performed on their part of the project, let Reality build the house, and just let the process get done.

It's always easy to pick on the larger companies. After all, you never hear a news story about John Doe complaining about his hourly pay from the local tavern. But you certainly hear the story when it involves a group of people at Wal-Mart! I'm sure there are some customers out there who have legitimate complaints that go beyond just the expected delay, inspection, and other issues. But, you would expect that with 1500 homes built, a few people would not be happy - just as Jared B said. Not everybody is going to be happy.

I think it's all about a person's expectations. If you are expecting your dream house to be built in 3 months with no delays, every inspection to pass, and so on, then your expectations about construction are not properly set. Talk to any person in the construction industry, and you'll begin to understand.

So, are there delays in construction, are there inspections that fail, and are there items that need to be fixed by the contractor? YES! It's a natural part of the process.

Am I satisfied with my Reality Homes house? Yes. In fact, I'm building another one right now.

Tom said:

Wow. Now I know why I can never get Reality homes to return my phone calls - they're always too busy playing on the computer and attempting to defend themselves.

My story:
Signed paperwork Feb 2005. Promised plans in 10 days.

Month and a half later, finally rec'd plans.

After the City requested additional information from Reality, Reality promised to have it in a couple of days. Another month later and we finally rec'd the revised plans. As well as a bill for a "price increase" because things hadn't started within 90 days. Yet I get punished for Reality not being able to keep their own promises.

Took them a month after the site was ready to finally pour the foundation.

Upon framing inspection, it was determined that the main support beam between the 1st & 2nd stories as installed too low. It took them FOUR MONTHS to fix this problem. Rather than fix it right the first time, they decided to monkey around with a bunch of other band-aids first.

So, started framing in November 2005. Final inspection in August 2006. Quite a far cry from the 150 days that they promise.

Paid an extra $1600 for a jacuzzi tub that we can't use because it doesn't have power to it. We have a garage door that doesn't work properly. Sliding glass door doesn't shut properly. Two months later, we're still trying to get a hold of Reality to get contacted by the sub-contractors.

We're now on our 4th site manager. 2nd punch list coordinator.

The only people who will actually return calls are the billing and sales people as they are the ones looking for your money.

This company has poor communication. This company is highly ineffecient. If you choose to do business with this company, I sure hope you have much better luck than I did - I know I wouldn't touch these guys with a 150 foot pole.

TWOOD said:

We used Reality homes and had a 18month nightmare on our hands. Our electrical failed three times and set us back months. Our cost went up in the lumber because of delays. The sales people were not helpful with what you do and don't get with the house. So our double shower has no doors...extra cost after the shower had been installed. During building we had beer cans, saw blades and other unmentionables left all over for US to pick up and throw away. Our home was left filthy daily, when I talked to the Reality owner he said it was not his problem. He also said that the sales personnel work independent and NOT for Reality Homes. Anything "our sales person promised was not done with Realities knowledge".
We have many problems in our home and know that in our one year walk through it will be a joke. Because the company accepts no responsiblity for anyone elses work. We will never recomend this company except for terrible business practice.
T.Wood--Eatonville

CD said:

To B Ewing and others that think all of us are just complaining and don't know anything about construction: If you are having a good experience with this company, consider yourself very lucky. Our experience with Reality Homes was horrible. Their project managers didn't two weeks. Many of those occasions was because we pleaded with them to come out to look at another mistake. Their lack of attention to the project made them unaware that many things weren't getting done on time or were done incorrectly. My Wife spent many months screaming and yelling to get them to show up and address serious issues with construction and quality. It is only thanks to her that the job got done in the time it did. She also spent hours and hours re-patching and re-caulking and doing other fixes because some of their subs did such poor work. You would think a 3rd grader did the caulking on our sinks, for example. They do not take responsibility for either their own mistakes or those of their subcontractors. Their standard response to us: "But you have a beautiful custom home." They are a churn and burn builder and have no sense of responsibility to their clients. Here are two examples of our experience with Reality Homes: 1) During framing they installed garage trusses that were obviously built incorrectly. This was apparent because they extended above the bottom of a 2nd floor window. They never took responsibility for this mistake and went through multiple "fixes" including moving the window up so that the top of the window was against the ceiling. This was not acceptable, and after much work and frustration, we now have a window that is much shorter than it is supposed to be to avoid the roof. 2) We had our home painted within the required window of time according to the contract. However, it was discovered that 2 of the door frames were built wrong and the doors didn't close properly. After a great deal of calling and waiting, Reality had them fixed, yet one of the door jams was broken during the process requiring replacement. This also required repainting it and I initially got verbal approval from Reality that they would pay for the painting. Then they changed their mind and decided to lie about that agreement saying, "We don't paint." After several months of frustration, working first through the BBB, and finally threatening to sue them, they finally agreed to pay for the painting.

In the middle of the process, we got so frustrated that we called a meeting with their management. One of the owners, Jaime, was 45 minutes late to the meeting. You know why? Because he was down checking on the house he is having built for himself. That is how little they care about customer service. They did meet with us and listened, but nothing changed.

The bottom line is that yes, on paper, Reality is cheaper, but with all the things they don't include and for the sake of your sanity, I would strongly recommend against them and I do that to everyone I can. It would be better to rent that go through that much aggravation. We are now building another home with a good builder and it is like night and day!

P.S. **To the person looking at Hi-Line as well, please investigate them thoroughly as Reality Homes management was formerly part of Hi-Line.

Jake said:

In Response to Jared and Unknown! First to Jared i think you better research your comment on the cost of your concrete that supposedly includes additional rebar and extra labor etc etc. You know as well as i do that when your laborers pour that concrete they use a boom truck,the most likely reason someone would need more concrete and you know this, would be due to the fact that since your company is homeowner involved as one of the other bloggers wrote here
the homeowner's contractor who would prepare the site for them would not leave the building site completely level and in a lot of areas it can be difficult to make the site perfectly level. If that would happen even after the rebar had been put in because it not being level and the fact that the forms your concrete contractor may or may not put as close to the ground as they could the concrete could blow out of the forms resulting in additional concrete if that were to happen it would cost the home buyer 300 dollars for an additional yard of concrete forget the added labor there would be none Jarod forget the added rebar there would be none Jarod. The only thing at that time that would be needed Jarod would be concrete and you know that so quit trying to put the untruth spin to it! So then how can you truly say your company is honest with that kind of charge? Further more I inderstand you proudly sticking up for your company that you have been at for 3 years however did i or anyone else expect you to say anything different? As far as the 75.00 charge you say for the extra phone Jacks Maybe you had better make sure your salesman understand the pricing instead of the actual people paying the price i know for a fact they cost 150 dollars I had to pay that much (or are you now saying because of maybe this story coming out you have dropped the prices?) Please Jarod be honest with yourself even if you don't want to be honest with everyone else. As as far as Pat Being an Honest Man i don't know him well enough to Judge butreading what most people have been writing and there have been several, In my mind i have to wonder if there is anyone honest at all in your whole company. I mean all these people writing in hear in negative paragraphs about your company can't all be liars. Oh yeah and i understand that had you not written nice things about Pat or your company the unemployment line could have been your alternative. But since you do work there and you did feel compelled to defend your company why don't you actually put your prices here on this blog including the just recent 4000.00 dollar price increase on the homes that haven't even been started and try convincing some of the people why your company raised the prices stating materials had gone up when in fact wood is at an all time low? or tell the people how your company raised the fuel surcharge by about 400 plus dollars even when gas prices are dropping come on Jarod tell us more about yourself and your company!

Nikki said:

Wow, this was my first visit to this site, I had the opportunity to catch this story and wanted further information. We built a Hi-Line home is 2003 and I would say we are satisfied with the result. People should consider that when they take on a project such as this, and participate in it, it is a very stressful situation. Every business is in business to make money so we should not hold this against them. Educate yourselves and don't sign any contract you do not fully understand. Good luck to all the companies out there that are trying to make every customer happy, it is an impossible task to be sure.

Nikki said:

One more comment:
I will say to King5, it would have been refreshing to see some information on their success stories, they would not still be in business if they did not have satisfied customers as well.

Eric Everett said:

I am the former Project Manager for Reality Homes. I was interview by Mr. Jones, but you did not see my interview. I was fired from Reality last May, when they found out I was trying to start my owne company.

I, will tell you this the reason my interview was not aired was because I would not lie about Reality Homes. After Mr. Jones interviewed me I had the feeling he was not going to give a objective report. So, I called him and asked if he was going give all the facts. Mr. Jones became very upset that I would questioned his integrity and told me the facts would tell the story, and I said as long as it is all the facts. I then told him that a journalist should be objective and tell the story not just part of the story. As I said to Mr. Jones there are journalist that only tell one side of the story just to make a story and not give all the facts. He then asured me he was not that kind of journalist. Well I waited to see the report and it was exactly what I thought it would be one sided. Where were all the facts?

Facts like Reality Homes has houndreds satisfied customers including other contractors who come to build with Reality for quality and timely construction, customers that built multiple times with Reality not just once or twice but four or five times and more. Another fact is the great value and equity these homes have customers move in with anywhere between $50,000 and $150,000 in equity at closing. The fact is Reality Homes is good company that is trying to get better.

The other thing Mr. Jones did not say is that two of the customers interviewed on air were involved in the same lawsuit and lied under oath. The fact is this so called investigative reporter was contacted after one of the parties lost the lawsuit. I know this because I there during the arbitraton Mr. Jones was not.

I am not a TV reporter but, I do know that if you are going to give a report you, should be objective and give all the facts not what will just make a good story. Otherwise your just a story teller and a bad one at that. Not a reporter.

Just so it is very clear I do not work for Reality Homes anymore In fact I helped start the company and put my own time and money into Reality just to get a job. I expected much more. So if anyone sould be upset with Reality it would be me. I left with nothing after five plus years of work. But the fact is the true is the true. Reality Homes is one of houndreds of builders across Washington who has the same issues as Reality.

So, be the smart people that you are and realise there is two sides to every story. And don't beleive everything you see on TV even the news.

Sincerely,
Eric Everett

A.S. said:

We also are dissatisfied with the service that we have received from Reality Homes. Overall, I feel that the home is of good quality, but the timeline was absolutely deplorable.

To put things in perspective: Two months after we signed our contract, we got pregnant. When our baby was a month old, we moved into our house. My daughter is now eleven months old, and the punchlist items are not all fixed yet!

I believe this falls far outside of the 150 day timeline that the Reality salesperson and the superintendent lead us to believe was very probable.

It is only because my husband was in the construction business at the time that the project got done at all. He was (and still is) CONSTANTLY calling our super and demanding that the next phase be scheduled. As mentioned earlier, the squeaky wheel gets the grease when it comes to Reality!

My advice to any potential customers: don't plan your family around the Reality Homes timeline!

Linda & Dick said:

It is definitely about time someone investigated this company. We recently built a home through Reality and it was a total nightmare from foundation up!! They NEVER did complete the work. My husband had to do so much himself or we would have NEVER had a completed home. We fixed up botched work as it went along because each time we contacted the company, we did not get responses and would wait weeks for any contact and that would only be when we yelled or payed a personal visit to the office in Fife. Many many mistakes were made and even though the home was paid for cash up front, they were way over their contract time. We called for final inspection because we couldn't get them to take care of it and several months after moving in, Katy from Reality asked us why we were living in the home. So what were we to do? Did they really think we were still waiting for them to complete the home? They NEVER did correct many items in our home. My husband went to the showroom to take pictures of the model and they told him to leave and he could not take any pictures. If they were not worried that they had misrepresented, why would they tell him to leave?
Shame on Reality homes!!! I did send a report to the BBB and was going to file against their bond, but several people had already. We had several friends interested in building a home and after seeing what we went through, said they would NEVER use Reality Homes.

Eric Everett said:

Please forgive my grammar and spelling as I was in a hurry to submit this. Thank you
Eric Everett

Jesse Jones said:

Mr. Everett,

We decided not to use any former employees.
The reason: we could not verify why you or anyone else was let go.
I spoke to a number of former employees. Most were not happy with the company and most had some real volitile things to say.
I left everyone out.
So now you say you were let go for trying to start your own company.
Please explain why you would be let go for that?

Jesse Jones

The Truth said:

Fact is this, Reality Homes is in this for the quick buck, all they care about is making money at innocent peoples expense. They prey on the weak, chosing to work with those that typically dont have the financial resources to fight to get what they paid for or for what is right. This is just the tip of the iceberg, most of the people out there they have worked with are broken and have given up. They have hurt untold people financially and emotionally. They have shattered dreams and ruined lives. They must know that what they are doing is hurting people, while they are happy driving around in their hummers and sporting their gold rolex watches (sad but true), while the people are forced to accept less than they were promised. Hopefully their negligence and potential fraud will not go undetected by the authorities that should step in and stop this type of business practice and make them responsible to all the people they have hurt. Reality, start shredding your documents, becuase i am certain they way you have conducted yourself, my guess is there is more than meets the eye here....follow the dollars, maybe the numbers dont add up?? maybe the accounting is off??? overbilled??? discriminatory billing?? double taxed??paid all the taxes youve collected?? Ever had an audit?? What comes around, goes around.

Denise said:

Hi Everyone! This sure has become an Interesting blogger site. First of all i want to say to the people who have had a miserable experience My feelings of hope are with all of you i hope you all can come to some reasonable settlement. Second i want to say to Reality all the complaints these people have had If you are the reputable company you claim to be and i THINK you are it is simple Take care of the problems. That is the only way your reputation will survive
As for my situation I have a house right now that is under construction and as i write this it is raining extremely hard here and out my window of my fifth wheel i see the framers on the rooftop working. This company to this point has delivered in fine fashion for us, my husband has been out after these framers have left for the day and he has only seen superb work from these framers. (to quote him he wishes there work ethic and professionalism on everyone) they have been great! We have looked at the job these folks have done and we are in awwww at the many negative comments, we can't relate. Maybe we have just been lucky to this point but so far as the way things have transpired for us we have no reason to doubt there future work with our home. In our case we have had just one superintendant and she has been stellar in as far as her communication with us just this morning she called us to let us know the next stage of construction our roofing! It truly surprises us to hear the comments we have been reading because we have been just pleased (to this point)
with the work they have done. As for the rest of you folks that have had problems we wish you the very best as it is never fun to hassle over such an important investment as your house. In no way are we trying to portray this company as perfect because we have had some front office situations at the first of our construction, however they were resolved rather quickly. But when all is said We think reality has done nice job for us and would like to thank them for such i just hope they can resolve the issues with everyone who has them.

charles said:

I have worked in new home construction for about 35 years and people like me know that the building industry has good times and bad times. During the good times construction companies spring up and take advantage of cheap money and booming local economies. Lets not be fooled here, this is about making money. If you want a good contractor look to see how long they have been around under the same name. Good times and bad. Reality Homes is a very new company whose problem is that they took on more work than they could handle professionally. Follow the money trail. I don't doubt that there is a lot of good people working at Reality Homes with good intentions, but I think people need to look deeper than that. There are ways to tell if a company is here just for the good times. Someone mentioned warranty, in my opinion, a third party warranty means you can go anytime. An "in-house" warranty means you here for the long hall. Most people involved in this type of building concept with owners doing part of the work, have never build anything in their whole life. It is up to the profesional contractor to guide these people in this process for it to be a success. That, you can get up front before you sign your contract. Start with one person and finish with that same person. Establish TRUST!! Don't assume it is there. If your a good person working at Reality Home, then live up to your promises, don't pass the buck. YOU make sure it gets done.

Eric Everett said:

It is real simple. When a company you work for finds out that you are trying to start a like company they might think that there would be some conflict of interest. Aside from my misspelled words and grammar, the fact is what I wrote and what I told you in my interview with you was the truth and you know it. Part of your story was based on two parties who lied under oath and one of the relatives of those parties, who you spoke with because you asked me what I thought of that person, has a serious criminal record. This shows that you based this part of your story on people with serious credability issues. Although I have some personal issues with Reality Homes, I support the company and I am very proud of its success.
Sincerely,
Eric Everett

Unknown said:

I would really like to know why Mr. Eric Everett's interview with Jesse Jones was not aired at all? I would like to hear both sides of this story not just one!

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Bill said:

I want to add a few more thoughts.

First, in my dealings with Reality I have only met one employee that I would consider less than helpful at times (it happens to be the guy that replaced Mr Everett). I have found the folks at Reality to be, as individuals, wonderful folks.

Second, after over a year of working with Reality, I have a house that is so close to complete that it isn't worth arguing about. However, I'll bet that the last items on the punch list never get done.

Third, yes, the resulting house is worth far more than the sum of what we paid Reality, plus the cost of the land and what we paid for additional labor and materials.

Fourth, I'll defend Reality in one other area and that is cost for additional and/or change items. Reality's business model is to deliver a home at low cost based on using a small set of simple house plans. To add the infrastructure to accomodate wide scale changes would drive costs up significantly. The fact is that Reality allows far more flexibility when it comes to changes/customizations than either Hiline or Adair. But to accomodate that flexibility Reality has to charge a stiff premium. Let's all face facts, if you want a custom home, you need to pay custom home prices. If you want something that costs less, you'll need to compromise.

But...

This is a business for my wife and I. This house is going to be a rental. We have lost between $8,000 and $10,000 because we had to carry the construction loan for 7 month beyond the contractual completion date without having rental income.

We have two properties that we are waiting to build on. Reality, or course, blew their chance to sell two more houses to us. We have had to delay construction until the Reality project was complete. So we had to carry the cost of those lots for 7 additional months. On top of that, real estate prices are softening all over the US. Thankfully we are still stable here in the Northwest. Should values start to slide here as they have in other parts of the country, Reality's schedule delay will cost us tens of thousands of dollars. So I'm sure that Reality has quite a few satisfied customers. I'm not one of them. I've tried to be objective in describing why I'm dissatisfied. Using them again is a risk I'm unwilling to take.

One more point. Someone said that any business receives complaints. That's true. My parents owned a jewelery store and I saw it first hand. But some folks get more and/or tougher complaints than others. I spent a few minutes looking over the Better Business Bureau website. Here is what I saw:

There are three listings for Reality Homes. Across those three listings there are 23 complaints that were resolved in one way or another. It's worth noting that across all the businesses I've researched on the BBB website I've only seen 1 unresolved complaint. I don't know why. They have to be out there. Since there are so many businesses with no complaints, I view complaints to the BBB, resolved or not as marks against that company.

So how does Reality's 23 complaints stack up against BBB complaints for other builders?

Appleton Homes - 0
Evergreen State Builders - 5 (1 unresolved, 1 no response)
Fox Homes - 1
Hiline - 5 (one unresolved)
Premier Communities - 5
Adair - 5
Quadrant Homes (I hear their commercials on the radio all the time - they ought to be a fair target) - 0
Regent Homes - 0
Soundbuilt Homes - 23
Stanbrooke - 3

I'm not going to claim that my list is exhaustive. I will say that I'm lazy so I just found a list of area home builders and looked them all up on the BBB website. I didn't pick and choose.

I'm sure someone will argue that maybe Reality built more homes than anyone else on my list and therefore would have more issues. Don't know if it's true but it's a good point. So as I thought about it, I tried to think of a business that gets a LOT of traffic and had a lot of opportunity for upset customers. Auto dealers popped to mind. Now I'm not going to go and list every area auto dealer. OK, this is a small sample but I've done business with the following dealerships in the past few years and here are the complaints listed with the BBB for each:

Mallon Ford - 5
Titus Will - 8 (note this is across 7 different businesses listed under the Titus Will name)
Courtesy Ford - 5
Robert Larson - 20 (this is across 8 different dealerships with the Robert Larson name)

I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.

Jesse Jones said:

Eric,

The person with the criminal record was the son of one of the people we interviewed.
He was not listed in the lawsuit.
Lied under oath?
There are a number of he said she said issues on both sides.
I went by the arbitrators decision. The person who decides the facts in that case.
In 27 paragraphs of facts there is no mention of anyone lying or being untruthful.
The arbitrators decision went to Reality.
I reported that.
I'd rather base my report on the report of the fact finder, not someone who wants me to blindly report something they believe.
If you want to be transparent, name the people who you say lied under oath.
Please, put their names in writing.
I'm not going to get into a flame war with you, but I will say this:
You were let go.
You are giving us your version of the firing.
Be careful throwing stones.

Jesse Jones

Michelle Johnson said:

I have also had a home built with Reality Homes. Thanks goodness that someone is finally sharing the truth about Reality and it is reaching a large audience. I know a number of people who have built or are thinking of building and I always tell them, "don't build with Reality." Then I go on to explain why. I tell them the same thing that is pointed out in the blog posts above. Like most, we were charged extra, we had building delays, nobody seemed to know what anyone was doing, the people at reality were for the most part not helpful when I called and several times rude and insulting. And, like others, we ended up finishing the work ourselves to avoid costly fees from our bank for a loan extension. As far as I could tell, the only thing Reality Homes was interested in was taking our money and selling the next house. Building a house in a timely manner and having satisfied customers was certainly not on their top ten list. I do think that we were foolish by signing the contract, but as first time home builders who were "sold" on a house and didn't know better. Now we do. I hope others out there don't make the same mistake we did.

Stephanie said:

The Better Business Bureau complaint system is a very lengthy one at best. You can’t just file the complaint, you must follow it diligently and continue to respond or it will be closed as “Satisfactory”.

Proof In The Puddin' said:

Ok... so this blog is turning in to the typical "he said, she said". If you've never worked for Reality or never had a home built by them, your opinion doesn't carry any weight.

Let those that are working with or have worked with Reality weigh in. The truth will show itself merely by the number of postings by such and what THEY say.

Jamie Kambich said:

I moved into my finally finished Reality Home 180 days after they poured the foundation on 03/25/2005. We were very excited and happy to be in our new home. Then the problems arrived several months later. The dry wall company, which is owned by one of the owners of Reality Homes did a poor job on our sheet rock. We had ridges all over our ceilings and on the walls. We fought, fought, and fought with them to fix it and they just finished with it September 2006. We also have many squeeks in the floor and they have been out several times, but nothing is improving. They will not even call us back now. 20 months after moving in, we are still left with things to be fixed. My recommendation is not to build with Reality Homes and pay the little extra money and go with a private builder.

Alice said:

We considered reality homes but we decided on Fox Homes LLC instead. Just as big of a mistake. We paid them $3000.00 for plans and only received one incomplete set of plans. This was 8 months ago. Now we are acting as our own general contractor and they want to sue/lein us. We have hired an attorney because they breached the contract by never delivering architectural plans w/engineering for us to obtain the building permit. Same type of contract, they can sue and lein us, but if they breach the contract we can only take them to mediation. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!

DO NOT USE FOX HOMES LLC

Stephanie said:

ERIC EVERETT
SHAME ON YOU!!! Your grammer and spelling; you were in a rush. Please your comments and work ethic are exactly the same, in a hurry to get on to the next thing, incorrect, mistated and flat out wrong. Maybe you should tell everyone the name of your new company then we can be aware of it too.

Happy Customer Where?? said:

What about all the elderly that I am sure Reality has taken advantage of, where is there spokes person or the people that don’t have computers, I guarantee a full investigation to all the people that had homes built by these so called builders would show a majority with major problems and are definitely not satisfied with their homes. These issues should make up a very small percentage of their homes, but I am sure it is much greater than that. I challenge all the people that are so happy with their homes to put their name and where and when they had their home built, i dont buy it, since I have yet to meet anyone that has had a home built by them and is happy with the result. So far I personally know of 5 people who had a home built by Reality and ALL of them hate the company. I am sure that there are those out there that did get a good product, believe it or not there are subs out there that build a good product in spite of Reality, but when you have common issues like the ones here, it is NOT by chance! Chances are without help from the authorities or the government, Reality will get away with it, is it possible to stop them? Possible to get the Feds to invesigate them??

Rick said:

My wife and I just moved in to our Hi-Line Home, we had problems as well, BUT are very happy with our location and the house we built. I could complian about alot but I understand delays and most of all the sqeeky wheel gets the oil. If your first contact doesn't call you back talk to the branch manager then talk to the Corp. Take pictures of everything!!! show them to the managers. print them, document everything. The contract is almost air tight for all builders. We finished a little late due to the foundation not being poured when promised and going through 3 framing crews. We have been in for 30 days now and it is home. I am sure Adair, Reality and Hi-Line could all use a Customer Service Department with people that cared and called you back but that cost money to make people happy.

All in all if I HAD to do it again I would.

Karen said:

My husband and I have been considering Reality as our home builder. We personally know someone who had Reality build their house, finishing it in just under a year, and they're happy with it. Reading all these comments has given me a lot to think about. I'm stunned by the poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc., in these letters. Do I use these errors as a guideline for the intelligence of the people why wrote them?

Why? said:

If you are going to make criticisms of grammar, then try looking at your own.

"... intelligence of the people why (who?) wrote them?"

Go for it! said:

Karen, give me a break. The last thing these people care about is spelling, grammar, and punctuation. They are a little more concerned over getting ripped off of tens of thousands of dollars, endless nights of no sleep, and sickness to the stomach due to stress or forced to live in a house that they don’t want. Karen I DARE you to build a Reality home. Go for it and we will all laugh when you end up the same way!!!!! Be a part of our reality!

Proof In The Puddin' said:

JESSE,

I have to say, I used to be in the radio business and your story was a little one sided. Not completely, but a little one side. Honestly, this blog shows more the of story in complete. Take a couple of points from 60 Minutes. Sure 60 Min loves to skewer a company's GM on camera, but they do offer them the opportunity to see the other side of the coin.

Your interview with the GM of Reality showed him basically being stumped by one major question. Where did the rest of the conversation go? On the editing floor? :-)

I understand that your piece was probably allocated 2 minutes on the news, but that's hardly enough time to present the full picture. Even 60 Min allocates around 18-20 minutes, which is still not enough time to show the whole picture.

You should allow equal time.

Just a thought.

Tracy said:

Where are my blogs? Do we not have freedom of speech or is everything one sided

Jeff said:

In all REALITY, No pun intended lol This company will in the future be investigated further, there are far to many complaints from ordinary people to simply say that people got what they paid for. Because as we all read here not many people actually got anything that they paid for, they were supposed to get a livable house per the contract whether the contract was a good one or not. they all had the same language related to actually getting a finished product. And upon further investigation if it is deemed that these people who have complained, truly did not get what they paid for it could border on plain and simple theft. Another charge that could be a possibility would be deceptive practice in regards to promises of a complete house only to get a house that is not. I'm not anything close to an attorney nor do i claim to be, however it just seems very suspicious that nothing can be done to these predators that masquerade as homebuilders with all the deceit and lies they have used to rake people out of money. I don't believe the story ends here with this investigation by King-5 don't be surprised if a class action lawsuit isn't started at some point and time..

Jake said:

Karen! Im still trying to understand the fact that you are stunned by the poor spelling, grammar, punctuation etc in these letters. What i can't understand is how you could come up with such a stupid question! Asking if you should use these errors as a guideline for the intelligence of the people WHY wrote them? I suggest you not worry so much of others grammer and get back with your husband and figure if reality will be you builder or not. That is the true guideline to any intelligence you need to know not others grammer..

Ananias Sapphira said:

"we TRY to do the right thing"

AWKWARD..............................

Achan said:

I had a Reality home built and all I got was a lousy robe and a couple of pieces of gold.

Judas said:

I just came into a field for 30 pieces of silver from this Potter guy. How long would it take you build a home on it? Rumor has it that I don't have a lot of time.

Gabriel said:

My parents went with Reality and I watched them fight not only Reality but after awhile each other. They hardly ever showed up and my mom started pressuring my dad who tried in vain to get ahold of anyone. Meanwhile we lived in a trailer and I couldn't have any friends over except during the day. My Uncle is a builder and would come out and shake his head at what he saw. Reality would tell my parents a move in date and it would pass, over and over again. I was getting pissed because I hated living in the trailer while nobody showed up.I watched my dad work so hard every day trying to get things done and he was always fixing stuff that was not right. I don't think people realize how much it affects the entire family.

Charlie said:

We had our house built in 2004 by Reality Homes. That's when we met employees Jim and Jared. They were always pleasant, listened to what we wanted and were very accommodating when it came to making some changes to make the house our own. Sure the permit process took almost 6 months. Sure it took Reality longer than the 5 months that they said it would take. Sure there were frustrations, delays, failed inspections, and things that needed to be fixed. However, this is true in any new home construction or remodel. The whole building process may have been slow and frustrating but it's been almost 2 years since we moved in and our Reality house is now our dream home and our family enjoys it tremendously.

Someone who knows said:

I have witnessed the building of a home. It is a very time consuming and tedious job. I have heard a great deal of slamming Reality Homes.
Its too bad more truth isn't being posted, such as the concrete strike almost totally halting the
residential constrution verses the commercial.
The home builders were put on hold. You say you were being charged $300 per yard of concrete.
Thats not JUST concrete, whos paying for the labor for that added yard and additional materials?
You buy a house from top to bottom for @$100,000,
You end up with a $300,000 home.
So, when you're done nit picking, I suggest you
do a little research and see who's calling the kettle black.
Truthfully, I would invest in Reality Homes with
Great expectations from past construction exp.


Are you kidding said:

Who ever wrote that last comment has no idea what these people have gone through, i bet its a Reality Homes employee.....Like I said, buy a Reality Home, I dare you!

Truth said:

You lose more than you gain in value building with these guys, go with a reputable builder where you have seen their other homes and seen others in construction. Get references of local owners. Promise it will save you from a disaster.

Be reasonable said:

Come on you guys!!! Anyone can pick any builder apart that has built this many homes. I have built 3 spec homes through Reality Homes and the home I currently live in. Of course no construction project is perfect, no office personel is perfect but my overall experience was great. I'm currently looking for more property to build more spec homes with Reality Homes. My home is beautiful and far more than I would have gotten through some other builders for the price.

Hey Jeff, get a life you've blogged 5 times in less than 24 hours. I smell and instagator

Little Pig1 and Little Pig2 said:

My brother and I just had homes built by Reality. Lets just say it didn't work out. The inspection just passed by its hair of its little chin chin. My older brother went with another builder. We are now living with him.

Proof In The Puddin' said:

I had a home built by one of the other "On Your Lot" builders. More like the BMW of builders, you know BMW's cost more than KIA's.

Anyway, while a lot of you saw that ad that read... "Built On Your Lot" for $38 per sq ft you got sucked in! My home was more like $80 per sq ft and what a difference. They have a complete "Customer Service" dept that followed up with our questions & concerns. Yes, we had some issues, as does EVERY SINGLE HOME PROJECT, but they worked with us to resolve every single one.

So... the next time you want a bottom of the barrel deal, just remember that most quality homes built on your lot start in the $150 per sq ft range and go up from there.

America's rife with people that want a deal!! Walmart doesn't build homes. (well not yet anyway) You get what you pay for.

End of story.

Todd said:

I won't bore you with the details of my own Reality Homes horror story, but may we all keep in mind that if we succeed in slowing Reality's sales or shut it down entirely we will only be hurting the hardworking employees and subcontractors. If you want to take the fight to the people who are really responsible you must bring suit against the owners themselves. They have already spent our money building their own dream homes.

Todd

Proof In The Puddin' said:

Here's one last thing that most people forget to realize. You shop at Nordstrom and you get great service! But you also pay $125 for a pair of shoes. You shop at Payless Shoes and you get a pair of shoes for $29... and no service.

You buy a cheap home, you get a great price... SO DON'T FREAKING EXPECT GREAT SERVICE!!!!!!

You pay $150 sq ft for a custom home and you'll typically get great service.

But with all that being said, you should expect for your builder to respond to problems and issues. If they can't do that, they need to get out of the construction business. Building homes is NOT like selling espresso. You sign a contract with a customer and you both are married for the next 6-12 months. If you can't take care of your customers, go sell espresso.

a developer said:

I know three people that are building homes right now with reality homes and all three are paying penalties fees to their respective banks because of reality's late time frame. Two of them have been building since 2005. I will never ever in a million years build with reality again. I'm actually using a competitor this time around. Reality head honchos are over their heads and their employees and the superintendants are taking the heat for it.Everything in the king 5 story is true and i've personally experienced it,i've even got friends who can back me up. Reality homes need to scale back big time. They need to try to remember why they are in business today and the little things that customer appreciated back in the day that kept them open today, because right now the company is goin down the drain.

DW said:

I am shocked by how these people are responding to this story. I built with Reality Homes and I've been living happily in my "Reality" home for two years now. I also know others who are happy with their homes built by them. I of course had a difficult time with construction too and I had to pay loan extension fees & other costs that I didn't budget for, but I realized that Reality had nothing to do with that because I had land/city problems. The bldg process seemed long, but that's probably because I had finances on the line, which made me impatient. But, my home got finished within their 150 days and I even had custom changes. I am very happy with them because I know there's no way I'd have over 80k equity if it wasn't for them. I'd like to say Thank You to Reality Homes and I'd encourage anyone who's wants to build to consider them!

cutter said:

You know all you fools who are comparing houses to shoes should get a clue, You dumb fools everyone has problem in their development projects but you have to experience this to see how crazy it is. This aint not store , we are paying hundreds of thousands just like everyone else. But hey snub your noses at this all yall fools got ripped when you built your great overpriced custom houses.

Alan Jongsma said:

Reality homes.

I would like to respond with the fact I had so many complaints to our department (Skagit County Planning and Development Services) that I had to call Reality Homes in to my office to make sure they understood that something had to change.

It became quite clear to me that their clients were very frustrated with Reality Homes business practices.
Reality Homes clients are Skagit Counties clients as well. Way to much of my time was being spent on trying to help customers deal with their nightmare that was getting out of control. The nightmare was not only at the beginning of the permit process but at all stages of the construciton process as well.

I was so frustrated to find a grown man to the point of tears when I was arrived to perform an inspection. He was absolutely crushed over the constant nightmares and costs that just seemed to be totally out of control.

It almost seemed like some of the clients felt like they deserved the abuse because they chose the lowest bidder.

And the list of issues could go on and on and on.

Robert said:

Just thought I would drop this 2nd note. There was a someone on here bashing Pat the general manager for Reality Homes and the owners of the CO. It sounds to me that you must of needed your hand held through the whole process and if this was the case then you probably should of went with a builder that charges 125.00 a sq. But the reason why you didn't go with the higher priced builder is because (YOU COULDN'T)And all the other people on this board Bitching and moaning poor old me let me ask you all a question.
When you closed on your loan your home was appraised and you all know what it appraised for! Does Jesse Jones know? I doubt it because if he did then he would of taken this stupid story and threw it out the window. The bottem line is this if you had a home built by Reality Homes and did not completly load it to the celing with options you can sell it for a MINT! Some people just like to Whine and complain .............Robert

unreality home buyer said:

When I saw the ad for the King5 Investigators report,I looked at my husband and said "I bet that is about Reality Homes" and BINGO, I was right. For everyone out there who thinks this story is one-sided,it is because there isn't another side!
We built our home with Reality because they promised exactly what we wanted: a quality home at an affordable price. Yep, I guess you get what you pay for!
I will not bore you with the MONTHS of stressful experiences and failed inspections. Honestly, our stories are almost identical to the ones posted here. I will add that, on final inspection, it was found that there had been no insulation put in (and it was under 25 degrees for several weeks and the workers had to have the heat on, so our heating bill was almost $850 dollars). It took them 3 weeks to get someone out to fix that "little" oversight. Also, our kitchen wall is not square. The Lowe's guy who delivered our refrigerator couldn't figure out why it look crooked when he pushed it back until we looked harder and discovered it was the stinkin' wall, not the position of the fridge.Wait, my kitchen countertops were not glued down correctly, so they bubble in different places. We were promised new ones about a year ago. Oh, and there was the little problem of us signing our contract based on the home plan we chose, and then the fact that they altered the home plans before they started framing, so when we came to take a look at the jobsite, we couldn't figure out why our powder room had moved and a wall was where our office door should have been.
Yes,when you build a home it is stressful. Yes, you get what you pay for. But, I have to agree with the person from Skagit County and say when you see your husband on the brink of tears and frustration because for the 3rd time your home has failed final inspection, you are 7 months overdue on when your house was supposed to be finished, and Christmas is 2 weeks away with 3 kids looking at you and asking why we can't move in yet....well, it just makes you wish that Reality Homes cared a little bit more about the customer then they appear to. After all, word of mouth can make or break a company,as see here.
We have a house that we can live in and enjoy. But we wonder what is going to go wrong with it and when. Poor framing, shotty plumbing and electrical work, squeaks all over the floors, bubbling countertops.....ahhh, the list goes on.
Please do your homework when building a home. We thought we had done that.
I will add in my final comment that we even went with a bank that Reality puts on their list of "recommended" lenders. They were truly fantastic people. Extraordinary in their helpfulness and understanding. They helped us to fight Reality when they requested payments on jobs not completed. Our loan officers were also very frank during the delays and failures and overruns: Reality Homes has huge problems with customer service and with quality of work. The bank manager told my husband that they do not want to stay on the "recommended" list much longer if the troubles continue to arise.
Thank you for your time. Please do your homework and know that even though Reality builds many homes and you are hearing from a small percentage, that it is because they are overloading themselves on homes that such poor customer service, shotty building practices, and major inspection problems are happening. Look into hiring a slightly more expensive builder with a decent record, and you will end up saving in the end.

unreality builder said:

Oh, and Robert, I am not one of those people bashing the CO of Reality.I have never met the man so I do not have a personal opinion of him. And you are right, we couldn't afford to buy a home priced more. Sorry that our income doesn't allow for that.Obviously you are of the means to be able to afford much more than my family. And, no...considering the fact that there are many cosmetic as well as structural problems with our home, we couldn't sell it for the "mint" that you advise us we could.
I can tell that you have never built a home with Reality Homes, so I feel bad for you that you feel the need to pass judgement on those of us who have and feel that they did not do some basic construction correctly, nor did they offer much help when our homes took months to pass what should have been pretty routine inspections based on how many houses they have built.
Thank you for your comments, but it seems that it is you *itching and moaning about something you do not know very much about.

james randall nall said:

ok if you build a home and contract reality homes to be your builder just keep an eye on you inspections(as you should be with anny builder) thin inspect it your self if somthing was missed you call the instector back pay the WHOPING $150 to have him (or her) come back out and check it it they will rewrite it if there is a non compliance issue.. if there is no correctiopns to be made the only problem is your perception of what a 500 dollar home is as compared to a 130 thousand doller home is because if you paid 130 you end up with a 240k aprasel so quit complainging and do somethig to protect you investment that is just plain busness smarts..

Brad & Cathy said:

FINALLY!!!! I just knew there were other people "out there" just like us. I wanted to call the TV station months ago. We also went to an attorney, but we were told just about the same thing by him as what the legal advisor stated during the interview.

I don't care what religion they are, or that some say we invested in a cheep product & got what we bought. If I bought a coat from Wall-Mart or Macys, if the zipper doesn't work I want to have the right to get a refund. If not, then I feel I've been robbed and Reailty Homes ROBBED US. We too, watched our framed house (without a roof) stand in the rain with four inches of water on the floor for three months last winter. Calling and calling the office trying to get someone out to work on the house. We had four different project superintendents. They were all very polite and helpful; that is, if I could trick them to take my phone calls. I could go through the whole story, but I just read my story over & over. I'm just like the rest of unsatisified customers naive enough to sign a contract that is ONE SIDED. All for Reality Homes. We paid over $7,000 Late pentlies, and the added intrest costs while waiting an extra three months to get in our house.

All of us ripped-off customers need to ban togeather and really squeek, scream, picket Olympia, work on a class action, something. Something to put these theives out of business. I want my money back they cost us from their greed and incompetence.

My question for those of you who say, "There is bound to be complaints in any busines," Why are all the complaints close to being identical and if they only build a few designs over and over again, why can't they ever pass an inspection? They should know the rules by now, I understand the rules by just working on this one house, how many Agustas have they built by now? Every inspection was red tagged, then it took weeks of calling ten times a day, SQUEEKING, to get someone out to fix the problem. Throught the whole process, I doubt anyone worked on the house more than five days a month.

We are honest, hardworking homeowners that had knowledge in construction, but we did'nt know anything about misrepresentation of their product and their ONE SIDED CONTRACT. Thats the ONLY One Sided View I know about.

Thank you channel 5. Just as soon as we heard your promotions for this investagion, we both said,"I bet it's about Reality Homes". It is just too bad you didn't air this story on the six o-clock news instead of eleven. Many working people go to bed eariler and missed your story. If you could please do a follow-up story on the overwheleming response during eariler hours, I'm sure there would be an even bigger story than you know. Reality Homes are crooks and need to go to jail for stealing just like any other theif.

I understand how the other authors writing about their nightmere get Sooo wound up they didn't worry about their gramer or spelling. Not when the emotions start flowing.

Let's take this Company Down!!!!!!

Peter Tetlow said:

I will say up front that I am a mortgage broker and fund loans for clients of
Reality Homes. From that stand point I have some observations regarding the issues being addressed in this forum. My loan officers and I have financed over 400 custom construction homes and over 350 of them have been Reality Homes. I have heard complaints about numerous building issues involving almost all of the builders. I personally bought two homes before construction started from a builder in Puyallup and it took them a full year to fix all of the structural and cosmetic issues they left when the homes were finished.

A higher percentage of the complaints I hear of are a result of projects that require owner participation in the process. The fact that the owner is involved is why the typical project ends up giving them a 20% equity in their home for virtually no money out of pocket in most cases. There are some rare exceptions, but this financial/real estate scenario is one of the few that I know of where the average working person can get legitimate 20% “sweat equity” in their new home. Try buying a home from Quadrant and asking them to give it to you for 20% under value. When there are complaints, I view the situation to be similar to a divorce. Neither side is totally blameless. There are expectations of each partner that may or may not be met. There may be personality conflicts. There may even be ego issues. I am certainly not saying that people don’t have legitimate complaints, but I rarely see them as black and white issues. There are always shades of grey. Remember, no business goes out of their way to cause problems for their clients.

From what I hear and see, Reality Homes has had less than 30 formal complaints, most of which have already been resolved. Let’s assume that there that only 1 in 4 people who are not satisfied go through the complaint process. That would mean that there are around 120 dissatisfied clients and many are voicing their displeasure here. Reality Homes has built around 1500 homes in less than 5 years. That means that less than 1% of these owners are not satisfied with their investment. That is pretty close to the satisfaction rate of people who buy new homes, have not been involved in the process, and have no “free equity” in their home. Remember that happy customers rarely take the time to register their feelings about companies they deal with.

I am not privy to inside decision making at Reality Homes, but I do know that they are constantly working to resolve construction problems that occur. I know from my own experiences with building 2 Reality Homes and one with another builder, that in construction, it’s not a question of if there is going to be a problem, but rather when. Every project encounters problems and most are resolved without the home owner even being aware of the issue or the resolution. When the owner is involved, it becomes personal.

I will now address one other issue. This is not the venue and it is never proper to make personal attacks on someone to attempt to score points against a business. It is in extremely poor taste and classless to bring someone’s religious affiliation into the conversation. It has no bearing on the business issues at hand. And “No”, I don’t have the same religious affiliation that has been brought into the fray.

Peter Tetlow, Owner Emerald City Lending Group

Jeff said:

Thank you Peter,
But when we are talkng about trust, moral integrity, honesty, loyalty, and truth, how does religion not come into play?

Wolf said:

I seem to think that the whole deal of bad built houses is just going around. My husbands co-worker just had a house built and had constant problems.(Rike Construction) Including the bathtub drain not connected to any drain pipes so it drained into the wall. I have a friend that works for a contractor in the area that says he would not live in one of the houses he has had to build (he works for a sub of D.K. Horton), do to shotty construction practices. They are so busy trying to get houses built that they just don't care if it is even done right. Personnlly after all I have hear I will not buy a newely built home. I would rather remodle an older house myself or buy a manufacture home before buying new construction.

Jim said:

We just completed a house with Reality Homes this past month in Montesano, and as far as we can tell, there were no issues that we have not seen before with other houses or builders we have worked with in the Seattle area over the past 30 years. Our house actually completed in 132 days from the start of framing, but we feel this was because of two key factors: we took the owner participation part real seriously and were at the site daily cleaning up and "inspecting" what was being done and bringing up things we found to be corrected to the site manager and scheduler. Also, we had a site prep person doing all our site work close by who knew well what needed to be done and when and what the local codes were. We also called the scheduler at Reality almost daily keeping him informed about the status of the project and what should be next to get done. The house was not without some issues, such as a slow process to get the drywall installed and finished, and a couple of doorways not completed properly, but we arrived at a clean solution with the site manager and got it fixed quickly. We also had to make some design changes to the garage to fit the house on the lot we were also purchasing to start this project, but an acceptable redesign was made with a fair cost and without a real long delay. We did not have any of the issues with communications described by others above and were able to find out about almost any questions we had at any time. Many little issues the subs created with their work we were able to point and they fixed them quickly, sometimes the next day. One key thing to understand is that there is not one crew doing all of the work on their homes everywhere. We had almost all local subs doing our house (within 30 miles) and they do about all the houses in our area with all builders here so I believe the basic house quality is the same as other builders. We talked to some of the subs as they were working on our house and they pretty much uniformly said they were happy working with Reality. The bank we worked with for the construction-permanent loan (recommended by Reality) was very professional and helpful and that process has gone well too. We have a small punch list with minor cosmetic items to finish, and this is already in work. To have gotten a very nice 2524 sq ft $300k house built on a local lot in the town we want to live that is really what we want, and to have about $50k more equity that we would not have had by going to a regular builder is a great result for the work and hassles you have to put up with being involved in the building process. The process was 9 1/2 months from putting earnest money down to purchase the lot to when we were approved by the city and ok'd by the builder to move in, and the costs projected only raised by about 3% during construction (almost all due to additions we decided to make and most of this was with the site itself, not the builder part). There may be complaints and bad experiences from some people working with Reality, but overall ours is not one of them.

Peter Tetlow said:

Jeff,

You are 100% right that those attributes should count in business dealings. We are all judged by how we conduct ourselves. I know a number of business people who have no religious faith, but are exemplary people to work with. Conversely, I know self proclaimed Christians, Jews and other faiths who have very low morals. You shouldn't judge on the basis of someones religion any more than you should judge on the basis of race, color, sex or national origin.

Martha Johnson said:

If you are going to throw your religion into the mix to inspire confidence in your product then you certainly should live up to it.

Someone Who Cares said:

What's so sad from seeing the story and reading all of your comments is to see that a company can hide behind a contract and not just 'do what's right'. Any company can hire a lawyer and have them draft an air-tight contract, one that the common person couldn't understand the true implications of. Long as the consumer is not relinquishing any right given to them by law, then the contract is valid and enforceable. Reality should realize that just because they are in the 'right' with their contract, they are not in the 'right' ethically. Maybe all those at the company will take a moment to look deep into themselves and think about their past actions, and not just try to rationalize all this as a witch-hunt. There's a lot of companies that this could have been focused on, but it was focused on YOU. Being a good solid company is not about deceiving your customers, hiding behind legalities, and just being about the money.

You are serving customers, families, and directly involved in one of the most significant investments in peoples lives. Take that responsibility and look inside yourself and see what you can do differently. Take some accountability for your past and make changes that can positively influence your future.

I imagine there was some good intentions that went into this company in the beginning. Remember that idea and rekindle it starting today. You don't live in a bubble anymore and now you have a bit of shame resting on your shoulders. Take that shame and turn it into something positive, something that can redeem your efforts, and be able to feel that you are acting as a moral person.

Stories like this can bring positive changes, IF you choose to let it.

Make the right decisions,

Someone who Cares

Bob said:

I'm interested in whether these complaints are about one of the Reality offices or all of them. Is it better to buy through an office other than Fife or is it a company wide problem?

Steve said:

I wish i could quit reading the bloggers who keep writing the statement THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! After all had any of us truly gotten what we paid for we wouldn't be here on this site bitchin.

Steve said:

To Bob! I don't think it would be wise for you to buy at any of there offices right now! You would almost have to be a fool after reading all the Horror stories to even think about buying a Reality home at this point no matter what office. And yes they are the same at any of the offices owned by the same greedy folks.

Jeff said:

I just completed my project with Reality Homes. It is the 3rd new construction home I have purchased in the past 8 years. I did not have any problems with Reality that I did not have with the custom contractor who built my other 2 homes.

Having a new home constructed is one of the most frustrating things you can do, regardless of the company. I can't speak to issues others have had, but Reality was always willing to work to solve my issues as they arose, and I would certainly work with them again. I am quite sure that the hundreds of other people who had homes built that did not have complaints would feel the same way.

Brian said:

I'll Picket these theives anytime you want. The facts are that Reality Homers Inc. does NOT take any resopsibility for the homes they build. They in fact make the claim that it is the Homeonwers responsibility to "build a code compliant home". Yet even if the homeowner is capable of knowing what a code compliant home is and demands that Reality and or it's subcontractors build to code they have no leverage to force this issue. Except in the contact there is a clause that states Reality will stop all work if a payment is not made and then fines the homeowner a $800.00 restart fee. Yet if you stop payment in an attempt to get a structually safe house, they terminate the contract AFTER billing for work never completed, then file a lien on the property, knowing that the type of people who are building with them will most likely not be able to afford an attorney. Or even if they can, their contract forces them into binding arbitrartion in Pierce County. NOW that is where I would like to see an investigator spend some time. Nothing in the Reality Homes contarct was written by mistake
and I would like to know why and how they are continually rewarded through arbitration for failing to build a code compliant home, not completing construction, altering the contracts after the buyer has signed and left it with them, fraudulant billing of phoney change orders, unsubstantiated price increases, some in excess of $10,000.00, forcing the lending companies to sell mortages out from under homeowners due to Reality's extensive delays. I wonder who's buying these loans? Reality or some of their cronies? They have used unlicensed subcontractors on nuerous projects, and impose a contract on the public that denies them any protection against Reality Homes failure. There is no incentive for Reality to comply with any requests from homeowners. I commend Don Lehman for trying to put a stop to this injustice. I know it cost him his life savings and his retiment home, but maybe one day Reality will be stopped and be forced to make amends to all those they have injured.

Unknown said:

To Bob, like Steve said they are on this site just "bitchin"...they represent a very small number of people. I wouldn't base such a huge decision on comments made by these disgruntled customers. Who knows how much of what they say is true? Do your own research. Like mentioned earlier these complaints are from less than 1% of the people Reality has helped by building them an affordable home. I built a Reality and made 40k when selling. My sister lives in a Reality and has about 100k equity. Was the construction process hard? Yes. But overall it was worth it...the house is fine. Every company has customer complaints. I bet even some of these are legitamate. But don't believe everything you read or hear. That's common knowledge.

Steve said:

In Response to some claims.

A higher percentage of the complaints I hear of are a result of projects that require owner participation in the process.: The only problem is Most people are not complaining of the the participation end of the deal, but truly have complaints about the Reality's portion remember Reality does not allow participation inside the house at all and inside is where most of the complaints are.

It sounds to me that you must of needed your hand held through the whole process : Excuse me! Who needed who's hand held? You purchase a home from a contractor (Reality Homes) and they cannot complete it? believe me they need there hand held far more then the customer, even when they are building your home.

You buy a cheap home, you get a great price... SO DON'T FREAKING EXPECT GREAT SERVICE!!!!!! : Okay! Okay! So i don't expect Great service i'd be greatful for just good service regardless how cheap the house is after all aven a Kia automobile has a warranty and even service for about 10.000 dollars common get a clue.

The home builders were put on hold. You say you were being charged $300 per yard of concrete.
Thats not JUST concrete, whos paying for the labor for that added yard and additional materials? : This is hard to even respond to due to the fact this writer obviously knows nothing about concrete and if he does knows very little. To this writer i have to ask What additional Labor? What additional materials? They pour from a concrete pumper into a form that is already in place to need more concrete is just that. No more material no more labor. And yes that's JUST concrete.

But with all that being said, you should expect for your builder to respond to problems and issues. If they can't do that, they need to get out of the construction business. Building homes is NOT like selling espresso. You sign a contract with a customer and you both are married for the next 6-12 months. If you can't take care of your customers, go sell espresso.

And with that said I'll take Hazelnut Latte...

B Lehman said:

HELLO ERIC EVERETT,
Still want to shake my hand like were friends. You attack me well let's see I recall you laughing at Janice Jennings while she was in tears because her roof trusses are breaking through the sheetrock in her home, I recall you making the statement that "Reality has much better luck with customers that have no construction knowlege than those that do." Then you want to talk about lies, you and MR. Reality have sure got the difference between truth and lies confussed. When you tell homeowners that the repairs will be done on thier home and then never are, is that not a lie. When you tell a homeowner that it's standard construction practices to leave out floor joists till punch list, is that not a lie. If you honestly beleive that it's standard construction not to attach the floor system to the foundation walls then you may not be a liar but an educated, experienced contractor you are not. I am sure Reality had to let you go in an attemt to reduce their past and future liability. At least in California I believe that they can criminaly prosecute contractors for your type of ethics. Good luck and good riddins.

Dan said:

Jesse,
For the sake of all those who are pouring our thier stories. Please tell us there will be follow up.

Brad & Cathy in Port Orchard said:

Yes! Yes! I will there in Fife too. Don, I'll give you a call. I am so glad to know we are not alone.

Please, King5news, this story affects us little guys in our daily lives with our good names and our life savings. I, Cathern Olsen cried tears to my loan adminstrator telling her we couldn't afford the penelities and complete the deck drawn in the plans and we had to complete it in order to pass the final. She didn't care, she just zapped the remaining funds out of our account. We are now in debt with a credit card and a Home Depot account. Plus, because we didn't move in on the date agreed the bank required a modification to our loan; which allowed the bank to change our intrest rate which in turn raised our payment.

Why are so many people willing to try and make this rip-off Company the injured party? "It's the homeowner's fault, they didn't work hard enough, Blah,Blah,Blah." Not true in our case. I lived 350' away from the construction site on a dead end road. When ANYONE drove up to the house I was up there before they could get out of their vehicle. I worked on my projects; such as, painting the exterior, cleaning up the debree materials as it was thrown out, pointed out concerns of mine to the workers, (even though, most of the subs couldn't speak english, I still got my point across) washed all the studs with treatment to stop the mold growing after the house sat in the worst three months of rain without a roof last winter. We worked every weekend, installing our own power line, water line, septic system; which, passed inspection the FIRST TIME, the ONLY inspection that did. One of our many project supervisors even gave us a case of calking to complete the job on the windows & nail holes missed. We did it without complaint. We didn't care, we just wanted to know what we could do to help out, after all, it was work equity and we arn't afarid of a little sweat. It was my job. It wasn't until the concrete man showed up for the garage pour and while we admired his work he sugessted it was time to start calling and pushing the Co. After all, he should know the Co. he worked for. Right? I did.

Like I said earlier today, everyone was very nice, they just didn't work on the house and cost us thousands. We love our house, everything works (except a few window & door locks) Although, we only got in with an inspection approval with stipulations a few minor things were fixed within a fast approching timeline for the final. After the walk-through with the Reality rep. we have not heard a word from them and we don't expect to. We plan on completing the punch list ourselves. It's just not worth the hassel because we are still on a time commitment.

We know Reality was the ONLY one responsible for the delay; therefore, they should be the ones to pay the penelty fees, added interest,and three months of income lost on our rental because we couldn't move. The money they stole from us put us in financial stress and if we would of had to pay one more month of fees we would have lost the house and our good credit. We want it back.
THEY OWE US!!

I am afraid the timming of this story in the news is bad timming because most citizens are wrapped up in the up-comming elections and this very important story will get lost in all the canditates backstabbing sound bites. Please Jessie, do a follow-up about the overwhelming response.

Come on all you ripped off Customers, turn off the email and lets show ourselves on the 18th. I'll bring the bank letters informing me about my pentilities, I'm not lying and all the stories sound so similiar. We arn't all lazy, liers, or crazy as some have suggested.

troy said:

Well where do I begin.I am still a share holder of Select Wall Systems Inc.the company listed at bottom of sign at F----er Proerties Corp. office or better known here as Reality Homes Corp. office of Fife.The last thing I want to be is associated with these CROOKS.If you wonder what has kept them one step ahead of all you decent people please do look to thier accounting firm.This is the tip of the iceberg of financial misconducts by the three gentlemen who own Reality Homes Inc.and other commercial construction Companies in their camp.Back in August 2003 my original partner L.H.JR and I took on the leader of this cr--e family as a partner to our buisness.Buy in amount to be $100,000.00 instead they made it $250.00 {tricky work by thier accountant/lawyer}.This new partner took full$80,000.00 a year salary only agreed to by these 2 CROOKS not me for doing nothing more than filtering this salary through his other commercial company to hide it from the IRS I figured.I was told by both my partners and accountant on January 1 2004 that the company had to be closed due to a $400,000.00 lose in 2003.To make a very long story short I lasted through 2004 they took my share of all money owed the corporation and eguiptment also.My lawyers and litigating accountant knew I had a very good case but lacked $100,000.00 or more to fight it.Its funny these CROOKS came to me in January 2005 to ask me to sign a letter {of which I still have a copy}to release all claims I may have against my to former partners AND ACCOUNTANT for any wrong doing they may have caused me. In return for this the letter says I would receive all remaining equiptment my original partner L.H.JR purchased year before this terrible merger with F----er.Since they fired me on December 1 2004 I have opened a new company with no partners.Depite thier threats to sue me violating or non compete clause.{very shady contract} Well in 2005 the tricky accountant found or $400,000.00 we lost in 2003 and told the IRS I did receieve these funds and the IRS wound like my payment on taxes of $98,000.00 .Also this tricky accountant said that I made $40,000.00 as a shareholder to Select Wall Systems Inc, in 2005 I sure would like to see that check.We at Select paid carpenters and others during start up of Reality Homes because they were not yet a legal contractor for their first 9 months or so.To all that deal with these CROOKS I feel your pain and would like to help in anyway possible to bring all accounting frauds out in open.Please focus on accounting.The only thing religion has to do with this is we all felt comforted knowing they said they were good honest people of religion when they place that knife in our back.As for Eric Everret he was a product of thier teaching.Please Eric for your new companys reputation and your own quit defending these CROOKS.This advise comes from a friend Eric.Do not even write to respond to this if you see it.It will show ignorance and your a much better man than that.

Dan said:

We also had huge problems with Reality. However, since I was working from home (which, conveniently, was on the lot our house was being built on), I knew when workers were there and when they weren't. When no workers showed up, we began calling. We had a delay of almost 7 weeks and only got them out to start again by constantly harassing first the project manager and then other people within the company. At one point we wrote a formal letter and copied it to the project manager, the president of the company, the Better Business Bureau, and the Attorney General. Then we had a meeting. Things went a bit more smoothly after that.
A digital camera can also be a great asset. They were going to begin drywall before the insulation was finished. During our meeting with the project manager and the company president, the project manager said he "didn't notice" that it wasn't finished. This was obviously a lie or he was a bigger idiot than even we thought. We showed the photos to the company president. I always wondered about the lack of reaction, but this article has explained it.
At one point, the company charged me for extra foundation. A photo proved my point that extra cement wasn't used for the foundation - it was poured on the ground!
We've been trying to get the electrician back ever since we moved in. We told them at walk through that there were problems; they didn't believe us. We told the electrician there were problems, and he said they don't make mistakes. Right.
We wish we would have gone with Wayne Homes. It was $10,000 more, but we would have saved a whole lot of money.
And, by the way, the project manager wasn't fired. He was promoted.

Judi W. said:

Ditto!! We helped build a Reality Home too, and had all of the problems listed in other posts. Cost increase, poor construction, failed inspections (or forgotten inspections that were found out too late), warped walls, doors that don't lock, warped ceiling sheetrock, holes around light switches, crooked kitchen linoleum (there were lines to follow for God's sake!), framing issues which required reframing the whole garage after the siding was on and painted, and then the big one! They took over a year to get it finalized and we ran out of loan extensions, so we lost our 30 yr fixed loan rate and were forced into a higher priced ARM. This will cost us thousands of dollars more in interest until rates come back down and we can try to refinance.

Would we do it again with Reality? Absolutely not. They never finished their final punchlist - say they'll show up and never do. We had three job superintendents who never answer their cell phones.

We saw their contract was crap before we signed it, but didn't have anything to make us believe they wouldn't do a good job at the time - so we signed it. They have a clause in there that says they can be delayed if they have "inability to get labor" or something like that, and that leaves it wide open FOREVER - and there's nothing you can do about it EVER because you signed the BAD contract (as Mr. Lehman and others found out).

If you're thinking of using Reality, please think again. We'd love to be in on a Class Action lawsuit if one gets started. I wish the state's attorney general would look into their practices quickly, or many more folks will get screwed too.

Expose the truth said:

Troy is right. Look at the other companies owned by these guys. If this is how they run this business, how is the Fancher empire running their other businesses. Getting governemnt contracts, wasting our tax dollars.

unknown said:

I'm so glad to see so many people come together,to express what CROOK"S these owners our at Reality homes.What pressure they impose on there custormers, us the furture homeowners,and all the people involved in the home building developement process.including there own employees.For one they don't really do any building of homes,They sell contracts,they have very few people that work for Reality that do any formal construction work as employees of Reality Homes.They warehouse no materails.What they actully do is float you money.Prey on the fact most people don't have the time or understanding of the complex project of building a home.So by the delays which our imposed by these owners,Because they willn't hire based on the volume of sales,It would hurt their profits,are brought in every month by draws that are sent-out every month,that you sign for and part of those draws haven't been completed.they are making fortunes by floating draws and contract's.They have been laughing about how they are making some much money,with this lack of concern-oh your home will be finished in a year.And then press there staff to do a better job collecting funds,Question how many supers working for Reality have ever seen a home from start to finish.Thats the number one reason they is no Qaulity controll on this company.They willn't pay for the right kind of people,to lead this company out of it's problems now in into the future.Why because US the custormers have the power,To get the voice across and it will have powerful effect on this company getting something done on each and every complant,past and present from here on out.THey have to much to hide from the feds,local goverment,accounting!

this is a repost said:

Posted by: a developer at November 3, 2006 10:15 PM

I am shocked by how these people are responding to this story. I built with Reality Homes and I've been living happily in my "Reality" home for two years now. I also know others who are happy with their homes built by them. I of course had a difficult time with construction too and I had to pay loan extension fees & other costs that I didn't budget for, but I realized that Reality had nothing to do with that because I had land/city problems. The bldg process seemed long, but that's probably because I had finances on the line, which made me impatient. But, my home got finished within their 150 days and I even had custom changes. I am very happy with them because I know there's no way I'd have over 80k equity if it wasn't for them. I'd like to say Thank You to Reality Homes and I'd encourage anyone who's wants to build to consider them!

james nall 360-689-9091 said:

Posted by: Jeff at November 2, 2006 10:52 PM

My husband and I have been looking at building a home though reality, I have had my heart set on one of there homes. Is this a major problem or do you think the company is working to fix it?

well if you want to build a home with reality i sudgest you do just that. the differnt duilders out there that will build a home for you for that price .will hait snags as well as slow downs but will comethrough for you in most cases leaving you with a hellof a equity jump from the day you move on in.. thats the plain truth.. and as for the guy claiming to work for the county and calling reality homes into his office i believe he is full of shit.. the county (his department) makes there money inspecting homes thats all they do . it is not his job nore in his decression to repromand anybody period. that i am sure of.. the fact is if you or anyonme that is complaing about realitys work should have gone somewhere elso like disney land because thats where they belong .. take a break and leave reality homes alone sombody namely would love them to still be on busness next year so they can build me a home when probibly nobody else will perform like them to help me to get a first time builders loan.. so for crist sakes shut the hell up.. if you are a builder or subcrantracter tell these people some facts about building hang ups would you they do not know shit or they would have built the house themselves.. thanks again

Delilah said:

My business partner and I built a beautiful Reality Home (a Ravens Ridge) just inside the King County line near Edgewood. The process was much like pulling a basketball out of our nose. Reality was not the easiest to work with, but we had used other builders in the past, and were expecting worse. Most of the problems we encountered originated with the King County Building Departmentn on Oaksdale Avenue. When you folks get done satisfying your personal vendettas with Reality, can I rent you to go after them?

As I read through this blog, I am much reminded of the old cowboy movies where the rather cowardly leader of the lynchmob, and who is a cohort of the bad guy, stands off to the side orchestrating things and says "lets string 'im up". In this case, I'm not sure where the good guy is standing, but I am interested in finding out.

I am sure that the owners of Reality are not blameless, but I haven't seen where they have an even playing field in giving their side of the story. The clip on King 5 was pretty much a one sided expose', and pretty much what I have come to expect from all of the local news agencies. Enough truth to make a high energy good guy/bad guy story, but not balanced with all the facts. That would have taken much more time and the few minutes available for the segment were better used to create an aura of wrong doing. Reality Homes really has given hundreds upon hundreds of people a great house and a solid value. King 5 should give them an equal time to explain their side of this story.

Now for those of you in the lynch mob..have you really considered the ramifications of success if you are able to "take them down"? How about the hundred or so people who are presently building their homes and could be seriously harmed financially even more than you feel you have been?

I would like to see King5 give Reality an equal chance to respond. Who knows, they may be able to satisfactorily answer the charges against them. If not, maybe they will offer some changes that will satisfy most involved. I look forward to seeing how this is resolved. I would hate to have to go back to having to build using, God forbid, Hi-line or even worse, Adair. The real value Reality gives to a majority of people cannot be forgotten about.

Dick and Linda said:

Okay, James Randall........you want the truth?
How's this?
1. Foundation blew out what a mess!
2. Delay
3. Crawl space in foundation cut right in the middle of a truss and right under a door!
4. Delay
5. Delay
6. Delay
7. Complaining to Reality
8. Framing went okay! Surprise!
9. Delay
10.Trusses and Roofing. OOOPS! Surprise! Plywood not properly attached bubbles in roof!
11. Delay
12. Gutters....fell off both sides of the house, clear to the ground. Neighbors got a real kick out of that one!
13. Now we are really embarrased we bought a home through Reality.
14. Great work on the exterior porch, etc! OH YEAH! We did that ourselves (as agreed in the contract)
15. Oh, oh, walls are crooked!
16. Delay
17. Delay (44 days for one of the delays!)
We are getting a little tired of living in a 19 foot travel trailer. Reality is getting a little tired of hearing from us!
18. Darn! Wrong doors installed
19. Delay
20. Delay
21. Darn! Wrong color countertops....by the way,
this was NEVER changed!
22. Darn! The utility room box that services the washer hose is broken. It would take to much to replace it........how about if Reality's contractor just glues it back together? Are you kidding?
23. Oh yes, I forgot.......wrong electrical service (size) was installed and had to be changed out. I can't remember how much that cost us!
24. Furnace was placed on dirt in the garage . They said it was fixed, but I am just waiting til it rusts underneath!
25. Delay
26. Countertops patched and FINALLY fixed, but now bubble and backsplash had to be replaced, which now leaves a gooey mess from the glue residue.
27. Edging on countertops is upside down and there is no support under the counters like the model (Reality will tell you the showroom is NOT the model, but that is the countertop they sold me on........isn't that true Kathy?!)
28. Delay
29. We had to install our own bathroom mirror after one was broken by the sub. It was not his fault, however, because Reality did not tell him to replace it until we were in the house.
30. Due to delays, and people aware our home was not occupied, someone chose to break into our garage and steal a beautiful 1941 chevrolet we owned. We are in no way saying this is anyone who works for Reality Homes. We know who it was and as soon as the detective can get the proof together, there will be an arrest. I am just saying, had we been in the house when we should have, this would not have happened because the house was wired for Brinks. We were not able to activate it because of delays. Just another nightmare.
30. Delays, delays, delays!
31. I know there are more things in my documentation, but this is just a little off the top of my head. We cooperated and did our own work as soon as we were told. We paid cash for the house and were harrassed about the last payment. We were trying to withhold the final, but were threatened by Katy at Reality. We were told we couldn't get the punch list done until we signed it off........we knew that was a joke, but signed anyway and paid the final to get Reality off of our property after 16 months of nightmares.
Talk about a grown man driven to tears! Yes, my poor husband was desperate trying to get things together, being nice to Reality while I was chipping away at him to get on their case. We had many friends come by, neighbors just shake their heads and console us and family that can vouch for all of this (people who have seen the mistakes and disregard) through their own eyes.
So........there you go! Oh yes, the comparison of Reality prices to a custom builder? What is with that? The reason their price is lower is because we provided our own land, septic, electric service, water, porch, deck, painting etc. THAT is where it is supposed to save you money!! A Custom builder puts that cost into his price. Don't you get it?
I agree......it is time for a class action suit!

Proof In The Puddin' said:

Enough with the rambling, run on sentences, and misspellings. AND ENOUGH WITH ALL CAPS.

That stuff is just plain impossible to read.

Delilah Debunker said:

To Delilah the Defender,
I must admit, you almost had me. I was right there with you on the lynchmob. I was there with you on the one-sided story. I was there with you on the "ramifications of success" But dear, you lost me when you chose to redirect attention and attack the competitors. Oh but you redeemed yourself with the comment "The real value Reality gives to the people cannot be forgotten." One doesn't have to look far in either direction of your post to read about THAT REAL VALUE...

Delilah said:

Debunker,
You really don't want me to start on the competition. A friend built an Adair and is still having problems with it. My business partner built a Hi-line, and has less hair because of that experience. We built a spec Reality and while it was not a seamless transaction or process, we made over $60K when we sold it. If King County hadn't gotten involved after everything was approved, it would have been closer to $75K. That's value. My partner made around $50K on his Hi-line. Adair?, well the friend is still dealing with a mold problem caused by poor construction, and I've been in her house. This type of owner/builder construction has legitimate value. It's how we make a living, and have had the best luck with Reality.

Steve said:

I PERSONALLY HAVE WORKED ON OVER 1500 REALITY HOMES WITH THE TWO DIFFERNT CREWS IN THE LAST YEAR AND ELEVEN MONTHS AND THAT IS JUST IN KITSAP MASON AND THURSTON COUNTYS REALITY HOMES COVERS TWO STATES.. THATS ALL FOR NOW .. THANKS AGAIN. : Then you are a part of the Problem! If you are here bragging about the fact you have worked on 1500 homes that reality homes have built. After Reading your blog (or at least trying to read it) I'm still not sure what you wrote made any sense: SORRY IJUST POSTED ABOVE AN INCORECT THIS I SAID 1500 IT IS OVER ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY AND THATS JUST US THREE ARE MANY MANY MORE COMPANYS LIKE US THAT DO WORK FOR THEM EVEN TODAY What the hell sense did this last comment make? By the way you think and write pal! You are part of Realitys problem.. Go back to sleep...


Jimmy said:

james randall nall..
I am glad you are part of thier defense team!!

SHAME ON YOU said:

The sad truth is that the owners, Jamie,Lowell, Fanchers live very well, and if there is any truth to braggings of Jamie Hankell on how rich they are then between the three owners they should be able to fix ALL of these problems ASAP.
If they chose not to then it is just plain greed.

Steve said:

Jimmy!

James Randall needs to defend his unrational thinking before he can even begin to defend Unreality....

bob said:

DEHILIA- my guess is you are a spec builder without a general contractors license. are you aware that is a violation of wa state law to sell homes without this license? the law is in effect to protect consumers from purchasing a home without a warranty. sure, reality may or may not say their warranty is transferrable, but reading this blog it is apparent they can't even complete punch list items, let alone warranty items. they may even offer the builders 2/10 warranty, but what good is that if the deck, well, power,paint or septic YOU installed/provide fails?? What protection do i have if a purchase a home from you and you are not a licensed, bonded or insured general contractor? Remember, the definition of a general contractor is someone who hires 2 or more sub contractors. i recommend you check with jim white the complaince officer at the dept of labor and industries for confirmation of this info. i also recommend you get out of the business and leave the building and selling of new homes to the people that comply with the law and pay thousands of dollars in insurance to protect the consumer-the professional general contractor.

Cindy said:

I volunteer for a consumer advocacy organziation and we get thousands of complaints and inquiries every year from all over the country about bad home builders. In my opinion this entire industry should be investigated for fraudulent practices. There is no excuse for so-called "professional" builders to be taking the deliberate shortcuts they are. This include failing to meet building codes which are not consistently enforced. People have a very difficult time getting warranty work done. Increasingly, complaints about builders include loan irregularities when the buyers have used the builders' in-house mortgage companies or 'preferred lenders.' Far more people than are being caught and prosecuted are doing these things. For a buyer to protect themselves they should hire competent and unbiased experts to represent them every step of the way, such as inspectors and engineers, as well as a good lawyer. Buyers should have their team of experts in place before they sign any contracts. Also, before anyone spends money on experts they need to eliminate the majority of bad builders from consideration by learning enough about construction that they can easily spot the builders taking common shortcuts. Those type of builders should be passed by.

Chuck & Lynn said:

...and the list goes on. At this point we feel very fortunate. After reading of the plight of others, to have only had to go through 15 months of brutal frustration, tears and drained savings, I feel a little guilty. In all fairness, we will say the end product was satisfactory.

Would we do it again or recommend Reality?...Never! Pat and Jared did make many major corrections our salesman was in error about. The entire office staff worked independently of one another, and never passed the opportunity to bad mouth their co-workers.

It appeared none of the staff had any training for their position as every question we posed had to be researched. A big thank you to Field Project Managers, Keith and Doug, who kept us from giving up and eventually got the job completed.

The subs were expected to drop their own schedules to accomodate Reality's last minute scheduling calls. Most of the subs were great and we have recommended them to others.

Contract? Yes, we read and questioned many aspects of it and were told "those things never happen". Like so many others, we believed them. There was no reason not to, in the beginning.

Research the company? Yes, BBB had a few minor complaints, with resolution by Reality.

We, like so many others, thought we were doing business with a reputable company. Best advice...be your own contractor. Anyone having survived the Reality experience now has the education.

A "good deal"? would have been, except by the time we had to foot the bill(s) to correct all of their mistakes, we could have had a "custom builder" do the job in a whole lot less time, which ultimately would have cost less.

Yes, we would very much like to hear a response from Lowell Jr & Sr. What they, and their company put unsuspecting, trusting people through, is just plain wrong.

delilah said:

No Bob,
My partner does all the work that needs no license to complete as a homeowner, ie. trenching, fencing, water hook-up, concrete, non structural carpentry, painting, pre-construction work, permit, etc. All of the other items that the owner is required to pay for is completely legal to have PSE, a licensed septic installer to do as a sub-contractor because one of us moves into the property to hold it for the 18 months required on the loan. We then keep it as a rental to comply with IRS to get past the 2 years. We simply take advantage of the appreciation of the property as well as the built in equity that this type of construction affords. Thus far, all of the punch lists have been completed before we sold the homes, and the home buyers had no problems with the transfer of the guarantee.

bob said:

DELILAH. i may have born at night but it wasn't last night. your ethics are in line with reality's.

Jeff said:

Bob

You know and I know that based on Delilah's comments she sound's like she could be just another snake in the grass looking for prey, just like Reality Homes after all she seem's to be saying because it is legal it is ok! Again Just like Reality, (because it is legal) however think of it this way, she has no time to think of the ethical because her and her partner apparently are looking to scheme LEGALLY....

Dan said:

Well...
Dont have time to read all the replies here although most of them resonate our experience. It was truly amazing the struggles we went through, though some of your struggles were worse than ours. I applaud you Jesse for doing this article! We had a home built by Reality about 1 1/2 years ago. My saving grace was that I am in the industry and took time after hours and on weekends to fix problems before they were swept under the rug..our framing..or sheetrock....or insulation and so on. We did our homework, they gave us names sof customers that we contacted and were happy with the end product. They showed us pictures of finished homes, and of course theres the testimonials. Problem being they promised the world and provided heartbreak.
I hope and pray others that are considering having a home built get wind of this article. They dont care about you, they have no concern for your home or your happiness, they have no quality control, they are unethical and they will take you for all you are worth and more.
I would imagine there are a few satisfied customers out there, I dont believe theyre in the majority. To the ones defending them....a good percentage... its obvious they didnt build one for you.
To those who work for them...your Mother must be proud!

Mike & Gina said:

Geez,
Where do I start, should I list the problems numerically or alphabetically. Our house is still in the process of being built, if we can call it that. The salesesman we delt with came to do our site inspection in his loafers in the snow, and would not leave the road. He is no longer with the company, dealing with 2 people who had no clue what we were doing, he refused to return calls and help us with what we needed to do next, for 1 full month were heard nothing from him or Reality. Next in line was the lady in charge of our preconstruction, who seemed more like we were interfering with her Saturday morning than actually trying help us. Then as one week went buy we were informed she lost one of our permits, I had a gentleman at the Centralia office fax her the permit, then, one week later we were informed she never recieved the fax, this is AFTER I physically held the fax recieved printout in my hand.We just lost 2 more weeks for a simple mistake that should never have been made! We are now on our 3rd superintendent, the fist of which told us a certain size rock in our driveway was great, we brought in our rock which was signed off on by our super, he was taken off our job in less than 2 weeks, Mark, the next super said the rock was to large, we had to spend more money to bring in another smaller rock. Once that was done, we heard nothing from Mark for over 2 weeks after over a dozen phone calls were placed to him, he has now been terminated from Reality homes. Our property at this point has been ready to build on for 2 months, during the really nice weather we had all summer. Here is the big joke, our concrete footings, our digout was done to spec. the contractor laid the first forms right on the ground at the highest corner, and laid the rest of the forms from there, he was supposed to go in 2 to 4 feet from the edge of the digout, not to the edge of it. He started at the very edge, our forms were over 9 inches off the ground, he told out super it wasn't level and we had our excavator come out and drop the corner down to level. The contractor DIDN"T drop the forms down as the super said he would have him do. He poured the cement anyway. Reality will most likely try to charge us for the unneccesary cement laid, at $3oo a yard, we have pictures of extra cement poured into our garage floor. The septic hole was also put in the wrong place, has to be filled in. Being concerned of the 150 day limit we had to complete construction, we called the head office to see what was goin on, we were told by Joshua the 150 days was a guidline, not something they really stick to. I have a Brother building with HiLine which started about 3 weeks before us, he has his roof on, and inspections done, we had a 50/50 shot, chose the wrong company, and now have made what feels like a $220K mistake. I would not recomend Reality to anyone thinking of building a new home.

mr.follow-up said:

Reality Homes, burlington office-what a circus going on there.Mike Slater the head clown,and the Monkey -Barry Frey .This mangement team should be fired,I allways wondered what they talk about in Monday meeting, Something like this ,well i got ten more customers this weekend so meet our sales goal, well i can't start the last 10,and I can't finsh the ones we have allready started.So if custermers call tell them will get to it sooner or later...What a Horrific experence dealing with this company,they are truley pathetic.Class action Suit!!!!!theres at least another 25 homeowners just on Whidbey Island alone with the same stories.It's about time they start to fix this mess.unReality homes.

x-sider said:

To James Randall Nall
James you really need to start wearing your dust mask when you'r cutting that Hardy plank cement board siding. It's obviously starting to affect your mental condition and NOT for the better.

Jake said:

X Sider!
With Guy's like James Randall Nall working on Unreality homes, is it any wonder this Homebuilder is so pathetic?

in Elma, WA said:

Our experience with Reality Homes was a nightmare. But before I share our experiences, I want to comment on Pat Eppright's claim that people otherwise wouldn't be able to have built a house. FALSE. This just adds insult to injury. In fact - the reason we decided to go with Reality over other contractors was because they sell a good line. We looked at the model home and thought it was a good value for the price. The problem is that Reality doesn't deliver the same product they hook you with. In hindsight, we know from our experience that Reality sets you up to fail with their contract. With that said, and what we know from our experience now, we would have been better off to go with a private contractor on a turn key home.

Some things we learned: If you don't have a building permit within 90 days of signing the contract then you are subject to a price increase. Our sales person told us Reality Homes has a special relationship with the county we live in and that since they have already seen all of their plans it would take less time for approval. FALSE. We bought this lie and were hit with two price increases. Counties serve on a first come first serve basis - there is no short cut in line. Some advice for others: If you are purchasing the property with the same bank you are getting your construction loan through - you will not make the 90 days. First of all, you are subject to the timeline of the firm who draws the plans (which is ridiculous because they are cookie cutter plans), then in our county it takes 6 to 8 weeks for review at the least. So - hinging on closure of the loan and then waiting for Reality to deliver your plans, then submitting the paperwork to the county - this timeline is impossible. Our price increase was over $5000. The next thing we learned is that our plans were drawn wrong for the county we live in. The trusses on the plans were rated for 80 mile per hour wind speeds. Our area requires 100-110. They called us up and said they would have to charge us $2400 for this saying our building location was unusual. It's not unusual, the entire county is rated that way, we didn't pay it, WE STOOD FIRM because we were able to prove otherwise with a diagram from our county and we had it in writing from Reality that they draw "site specific plans". After our plans were finally corrected and approved by the county - then it was a waiting game to start the footing pour. Some interesting facts about our pour. Reality asked for 3 - 4 feet extra dug out around the foot print. Our contractor provided that. Our excavation area was level within 3 inches (allowed by Reality). That said, if extra cement is required for the pour, then our contract said Reality could charge us $285 a yard. Coincedentally, the subcontractor pushed the footing forms all the way into the furthest corner of our dig out and suspended the framiing 6-8 inches off the ground. The only portion of the framing that was touching the ground was the very outside corner of the footing that was shoved into the furthest corner (not even where we wanted our house at, but conspicuously, we were told at 3:00 PM on a Friday that our pour would take place the following Monday, and that we were going to need approximately 6 or so yards of cement because the dig out was off by 6-8 inches). Mind boggling. But you know, we knew we were getting trapped into another ridiculous bill. It would have cost us over $1500 for the extra cement, because the 6-8 inches they suspended the forms at would allow it to keep spilling under. We found a way to cut this bill in half by getting approval to tamp sand in the forms (100% compaction - ask your county future Reality customers). Even still, a lot of work - but by this time just the fact we could block them from taking our money was worth the hand tamping it in. The next thing... Last year we had record rainfall. Reality started our framing, and then just stopped for three weeks. While the crawl space filled up with water because they stopped at putting the roof on. They continued with some construction, but just really never did get around to the roof or the gutters until we had rented sump pumps on three different occasions to get the water out. OH - and while this was happening we were threatened with holding the process up because there was water under our house - back to the clause in the contract of holding up construction. Another issue arrising from the wait on the roof was that the house was so wet and by the time they put it on it had started to mildew and had to be sprayed to kill the spores (not to mention the roof leaked across the peak and only through arguing about the leaks they installed baffles on ridge to keep the rain from coming in - we are still hoping that works out and we aren't going to have future leaks). Before I forget, after they were able to draw on the loan, they ordered all of the framing supplies, outside doors and windows, and had them delivered - sitting there for months in the mud and the rain before they were ever to be put to use. All of the tracks in our windows were caked full of mud. Not only because they sat outside, but because the individuals who put them in our house put them in with mud all over their hands. WONDERFUL. We didn't get new windows either. We were told they would come clean. They don't come all the way clean. The dirt seeps into the seal, and now the windows look like windows on a 20 year old house. The entry doors that sat outside fell apart and the metal parts were rusted - and the subs were instructed to put them back together and install them. We were lucky enough to get those replaced in the end. Moving on to dealing with difficult subs. The plumber got into a fight with the HVAC installer because a small peice of PVC pipe needed to be cut to allow for correct air flow. We recieved a $300 bill from Reality for this. We didn't pay it though - because it was ridiculous. One of our windows was installed broken - a new replacement window sat in our garage for months, and we were told to wait for the punch list to have it installed. In fact, one in the borage of different superintendents on our project took the window from our garage home with him. Reality didn't repair the window until four months after closing. This same superintendent told us and our contractor to backfill our garage four inches from the line he snapped along the stem wall. Either he didn't know what he was doing, or it was another scam because the concrete finishers told us it was going to cost double to pour the floor, because it would have been 8 inches instead of 4. So we had to pay to have someone bring in and tamp down 4 more inches of crushed rock for the floor. Another $400 of senseless money spent, because if the superintendent would have told us to have it filled at the line this wouldn't have happened. We could have used more dirt from our site. Back to the subs. The drywaller was supposed to put down paper in our house for clean-up. Never happened. Our subfloor was destroyed with drywall dust and mud. We cleaned up far more than we should have ever had to. They left huge pieces of drywall in our house for us to dispose of, and we had to scrape the subfloor and seal it with Kilz to prevent the carpet from being ruined (note this was the second time we had to do a major scrape and sweep on our floor because the subs tracked in so much mud in the building process). Back to drywall. The employees of the drywall cooked their meals in our home when they had no business being there (not on the clock if you know what I mean), spit snot on our subfloor, and poured their sodas out on the subfloor as well. Who knows what else they did, this is just what we caught them doing. Then, the ownwer of the drywall company texturized everything in the house (including the bath tubs, outlets, plumbing, telephone/cable box - even some of the windows). Another mess for us to clean up. We told Reality about this, but no reprimand for the sub. In fact, Pat Eppright sent us a letter saying we were uncooperative, a “Hindrance to Construction Progress” and if we kept complaining they would have to stop construction until we resolved the matter, which would leave us open for another price increase. Blackmail. When we signed the contract we upgraded to a larger island. Paid $1200 for it. They built a smaller island anyway, and then offered to give us back $500 if we would just keep the one they built. $1200 for that island is a rip off. It has the exact same cupboard space as what would already come with the house plans, they didn't include any extras, they know this, but still wave the carrot and ask you to pay $1200 for the upgrade. What??? They finally finished it, but on each side of the underside of the island there were 10 screws hanging out about 1/2 inch. Just long enough to scratch a childs head. And, the molding used to join the seams is cracked at the corners all the way to the top (they still haven't fixed this - we closed in June). The carpet they put in our house is junk. Every seam is visible, it is short of the entry way wood laminate (pulled appart from it)and it releases an entire bag of fibers every time we vaccuum. We upgraded the kitchen vinyl and because Reality scheduled to put the trim and doors in prior to the vinyl going down, the vinyl installer over cut around the doors and you can see the subfloor. This was supposed to be repaired. The subs repair was to put wood putty on the sub floor to blend it with the color of the trim. This is unacceptable - we have complained several times -but still Reality has done nothing to remedy this.

A list of things Reality's subs did: repeatedly ripped the filters out of our furnace (leaving it exposed to drywall dust, left our house unlocked, kinked our air conditioning line in three places on the copper tubing in the garage and we had to have a hole cut in the drywall to have it repaired, pulled up onto our newly poured garage apron and broke the corner off (even though we had it posted with signs and blocked off with tape and three barracades), backed over an ornamental tree we planted in the yard (broke it at the base, and shored it back up so it would look like nothing happened), stole a shop vac, picked through the straight lumber in the piles and loaded it into their trucks - then used the rest to build with, wrote four letter words in mud on the inside of our walls and windows, scratched the floor of our garage (there isn't an inch that isn't scratched and gouged), caulked the house only as high as they could reach on foot, wiped caulk on the outside of the windows, they left garbage everywhere on the property - complete chaos.

We had to do our punch list twice. The first time, the superintendent was two hours late, didn't bring the correct forms, and told us he had prior committments. Overall they wasted about four hours of our time that day, and we ended up having to do a walk through with another person (a manager) requiring us to take more time off from work. Funny, one of the things this manager said to us when we were listing our complaints about the house - he told us our house was "just like buying a used car, there's going to be little dings and scratches in it". Too bad they didn't tell us this when we signed the contract for a new house.

We could go on, and on, and on. Let's put it this way, our punch list is two pages, and they've just begun to scratch the surface.

This experience has been truly disappointing, emotionally draining, financially draining, and we would not recommend Reality to anyone looking to build a new home.

john boy said:

ya i went through and read every artical in the entire web page and james nall is correct almost every posting is unacurat as well as mostly wrong ya about every artical .. why would sombody write a story like this ? then post it as well as sensor it i see that the reporter has removed several statments as well as removed corrections posted. sonds like a lamb argument and i think you should all grow up
and yes most posts are wrong the verry last one for instance the owner was told the garage poor would be 4 inches thik from the chalk line down so whene there was obvously 12 inches down to the ground from the chalk line did they only bring in four inches of gravel leaving an 8 inch poor then insinuate that reality tryed to take them for twice as much for the poor. ?? thats the first post should i go on as well ?

SHAME ON YOU said:

come on Pat ,Jamie say something, apolagize to these people. Where is your humility or did you lose it when you found the money.

in Elma said:

Who ever "john boy" is is a blatant liar, and I would guess an employee of Reality. The superintendent told not only me but our contractor, who back filled the garage for us, to fill it 4 inches from the chalk line. I don't know who you are, but unless you are Kelly Landry, one of three superintendents who didn't seem to know what was going on, you don't know what you are talking about. My blog is factual and true. If it was up to my family, we wouldn't have to bother looking in a blog or even writing about our unpleasant experience with Reality Homes - we would much rather have had a pleasant experience and had the opportunity to spread a good word. This however, given the experience we have had is impossible. The only thing we are left to do is hopefully save somebody else the pain, suffering and stress he have endured.

Steve said:

Elma
Please do not spar with John Boy you can tell this guy has never bought a home thru reality otherwise he would not be blabbing such smut! However it does appear that possibly he helps build these junk house's in which it is the whole subject on this blog. And besides how would John Boy know what Reality told you? And how would John Boy know that all the posting's here are wrong John Boy has never bought a house from Reality homes therefore he is in my opinion clueless. John Boy it is time you and James Nall go back to sleep because when you and James are awake neither one of you know what you are talking about. Can you Say CLUELESS?

john said:

as a matter of a fact i have built three count them three reality homes and i believe james nall sidded two of them. yes i,m sure he did.. verry profesional..and i,m sure not so delusional. ..if you stay out of there way let everyone do there job instead of trying to tell them how to do there job i,m sure you will be more than pleased. with the product reality homes produces. but if you like you can just sighn off on you loan before you finnish you responsibility landscaping,GUTTERS,driveway fence and just leave your new home in a hole well with that you probibly have several complaints about your own handy work..

Broken said:

Elma I understand just what you are saying all my husband and I ever wanted was our house build.And might I say build to code and not falling down!They have take almost everything we have it.Like you I really hope any one thinking of going with Reality Homes not just walk away but run as fast as you can away!

john boy said:

jesse
re read this blog
Jesse,
My daughter got Reality Homes to build thier dream home and it has been over two years now and the home is not completely finished. The first problem came up when they found out that Reality Homes poured the foundation in the wrong place on the lot. The foundation was place encrouching the adjacent open lot. The only solution were to move the foundation to the property or buy the adjacent lot, they ended up doing the later. Another problem that we found was the wall in the master bathroom was not even straight, and with that maybe we just have accept it cuz it will never be fix.
They also like to promised work that will be done at certain time but never accomplished thier promise.


Posted by: Rolando Roque at November 3, 2006 09:43 AM

well this was one of the first blogs i already covered the last.
you the person asking reality to build you a home will let you know that you need to do the excavating as with all of there contracts so i,d say you gave your excavating company bad property lines as reality obvously poored your foundation where you told them to .
thats the first and last blog.. want anny more ???

john boy said:

the blog postyer below quite there job to finnish her own homw whene it is clearly stated in that contract there are penalitys for non lisenced persons working on the site how can you be a homeowner whene you have not paid for the home yet. if reality did not file a lean and penalitys on this individual they would be held liable by that county for non compliance with local building codes.. so anybody else as i said i,m a verry hapy customer .i stay out of the way i get what i pay for.. anybody else..


Posted by: Donald Lehman at November 3, 2006 01:10 PM

john boy said:

well ok sometimes things take longer than expectedespecally during the winter look outside it has been raining for 4 days now prety nuch non stop i,m suprised anybody works in weather like this.i don,t.but there are problems with building spec homes .. thats where you pick through a pile of most comonly wanted building designes (curent fashons for todays homes) then there are engenering issues.. wow especaily if you failed to level you lot and called them to poor NOE there are unadded elevation changes that aupon inspection by county will require the contractor(or sub) to acomidate that countys codes to show structural integragity of that home .and county will require that before sighning off on the framing as well as sheer wall as well..wow is that reality's fault that you did not acomidate the property to meet those blueprints you contracted them to build ??????well.. is it ??? there is a lot of things that come up .that is why (generaly speeking) you will pay $90 to $150 a sq ft as opposed to reality's average of $45 to $60 a sq foot add it up.. i love building homes for people. it is my life i (hopfully ) will retire in 10 or 20 years from now doing just that. it's great. so whene reading these BLOGS please be real. if you want an afordable home for a great price there are manny builders reality os just one of them .. i'l bet if you call 40 sucontactors and ask if there house passed framing the first time . 99% of those honest folks will answer absolitutely no of course not..serously.

but you know as james said if you have a real bad issue (with anybuilders)framing for good nesssakes, go to the city permit office pay a hundred and firty bucks for a reinspection meet them there show them yourselves that it is not up to code or what is not correct and if it is a fair complaint (a real proble,) then it will be written up and finnal insrection will not be sighned off untill the mater(matter's) are resolved.. if you do that go build a few as i have WITH REALITY HOMES and reap the rewards.

william said:

i think john boy and james nall should ask reality for a raise. maybe get yourself an education.

Jeff said:

John Boy!

My question is if the framers were to frame the damn house to blueprint standards why wouldn't it pass the first time? The answer is that Reality Homes don't check up on STUPID framers that can't read blueprints could that be the reason John Boy? Another topic of yours, you claim the foundation was poured on an unlevel lot that the homeowner had, What do you suppose a preconstruction meeting with your site manager is for? they are supposed to make sure that the homeowner's lot is ready and if it isn't they are supposed to point out what needs to be corrected. Do you suppose the site manager shows up just for a chat? Of course not! He or she shows up to make shure the homeowners responsibilities have been met. Try not having your water supply met or the electricity not connected or hell try not having even so much as a sani can when the site manager shows up. What do you think he or she will tell you? Cmon Johnny Boy answer! You know as well as i do that the job of the site manager is to make sure the homeowner has there act together before they come out to pour concrete. You ask how can someone be a homeowner before the house is paid? What a stupid question, The real question you should be asking is why should a homeowner pay before the home is built. You also claim that reality must put a lien on someones home otherwise they will be responsible by the county for an unfinished home due to noncompliance with building codes! What the hell are you smoking or are you just naturally uninformed? The simple fact is Reality Homes is responsible lein or not for not following county codes after all they are the ones attempting to build the house Johnny no leins would be required if they as homebuilders and you as a blogger would pull there heads out of there *sses. The bottom line is quit trying to defend these people when you know not what you speak!

Past Sub said:

Pat Eppright is the main problem with this company. I USE to be one of there subs. I QUIT. Greedy greedy person who hides gehind a contract. Pat answerd " We try to do what is right " > He would never consider it. Contract only, it is all about contract only. No morals what so ever.

mr.follow-up said:

I have heard it all, from so many sources and my own on going,home project with these Crook's and thives.I think we should all build them a home,one with three walls and a view- with bars,6 by 10 cell,locked door-and throw in the extra's 3 sqaure meals.Welcome home robe,colored designer Orange with their names on it-Pat eppright,Lowel Hankle jr,&sr. Jamie Hankle,Eric Everett.Extended home warranty 2-10 year sentence.Get out of jail card for good behavior,Fix the problems you have put these people in.ITs just a question of time now?

Be Careful said:

Be careful about leaving phone number and posting addresses on this blog. Even when you hide your identity you can be found out. King 5 has records of your computers IP address each time you post a message. You are not truly anonymous. If you post something threatening you can be gone after. All they have to do is follow up with your Internet provider for verification. You do have the right to be angry, but don't get yourself in trouble because someone else has no ethics. The internet has a way of making you feel powerful. It can be a false sense of security. Read King 5's rules if you get a chance. They are posted by the add comments section.

Steve said:

Thank's for your advise Be Careful! Actually i wouldn't do a thing as such. However Illegal it is not as their addresses are of public record However King 5 may not appreciate it! However it does sound like a good Idea huh? lol

johny boy said:

because the blue prints do not always reflect small changes the purchaser may mak as well there are little things such as fire blocking sometimes you get so preoccupied with what you are doing for the homeowner realy working (verry hard) that you may miss somthing.. for instance reality built a home for an unnamed person out on bainbridge island the home owner was expected to have the lot site ready well they called reality said send out the concreet people they arrived they delivered a great product the framers got right in there did there job and the rest electrical but whene the inspector showed up it turned out that the homeowner did not grade the lot as they has as they insuinated by calling and saying it was ready soooo the concreet id the proper adjustments which included two poney walls one about 3 to 4 feet and another by the garage about 10 inches and all was well but whene was done the inspector showed from bainbridge he said hay you sneeky guys you sure want these folks done without anny wasting time but now as the blue prints have no elevation changes that drastic you must add straps here here here change up to satisfactory straping here here and here as well as add hand diped 16 galvys every 4 inches arround the back side of the foundation on the north wall o ya and a studd he says this a 18 inch offsett it should be 16.. well the retturn wall buted in at a little less than 16 in so it apeared to be correct.. so again the subs for reality worked hard put out a great product but the home owner had made some small changes here and there kind of off the reccard. it took a whoping 14 hours for the entire problem to be resolved as well as sighned off on framing and sheer wall...

o ya as the poney wall was so high he also required that both walls under the house suporting the floor (large pony wall area) to be sheeted he said it would make that area way stronger..
does this answer your question (even remotely???

john boy said:

attention JEFF
Jeff at November 5, 2006 06:30 PM

and i do know what i am talking about the home purcgased you just refered to said she quit her job moved to the sit and finnished building her house herself.. she can not do that she is not a contractor read a reality homes or anybody elses contract you are forbid from working on the home upgrading the home doing anything the home untill reality(for instance) is 100 % finnished
and you know as i said stay out of the way unless you are needed and let the folks do there job.. and unless you are a builder with manny many years experance you obvously are the one that has no clue of what you are refering to ..

unless you just want to BS

Jeff said:

Get back to building with your lego set Johnny Boy...

Jeff said:

Johnny That is the whole Problem Reality NEVER finishes the Home!! Why do you think these bloggers are bitching? That is pathetic that this lady had to quit her job and finish it herself! why do you think she had to finish it Johnny? Because Reality was unable to, that is why.. Hello!! what part of these story's are you not understanding? And even if there are changes to a blueprint, Johnny you or anyone else on the job need to know how to read any changes as well!!! And no you eluded all the questions i asked earlier but my guess is you did not understand the questions anyway. in the mean time you keep building these worthless homes for Reality while you still can Because my guess is it will be short lived.

Marie Antoinette said:

It's time for Fancher, Hankle, and Epright to acknowledge the outcry against their company.
I would like to suggest a response that I have personally used when faced with a similar situation: "Let Them Eat Cake."

Jeff said:


This was the worst decision of our lives to go with Reality Homes. If it hadn't been for my husband literally following them around with a hammer - I don't believe our house would be what it is. They never completed the punch list, went over schedule to the point of us paying more interest and late fees on our loan, etc. This was a nightmare from the very beginning. SOMEONE ELSE WRITE'S: My daughter got Reality Homes to build thier dream home and it has been over two years now and the home is not completely finished. AND STILL ANOTHER WRITE"S: We were told we couldn't get the punch list done until we signed it off........we knew that was a joke, but signed anyway and paid the final to get Reality off of our property after 16 months of nightmares. ANd STILL ANOTHER! : Reality is out of control. I was leined because they don't know what is going on in their own company. No one showed up for months, and charged for work not done, everything that is said is true,everything. They don't care your getting screwed and your life is in shambles.. Maybe You should learn to read as well. Good Night Johnny Boy!

Jo L McNealy said:

HELP.... My husband and I had our pre-construction meeting with Reality on 10-5-2006.We signed with the Woodland Wa. office for our home to be built in Washougal,Wa. Skamania Co. I have been searching the internet and found nothing negative on Reality prior to choosing Reality and was quite shocked to see this blog. To put it mildly I am SCARED S#$&%@**. Please if anyone has any insight as to what I can do to squeek the wheel to get this house done right and on time please email me.I have already paid them 1/3 of the purchase price. And yeah it took 3 weeks from pre-construction meeting to get our job super on-site. We had all excavating, temp-power, water etc. ready. The super said yeah we will probaly do foundation next week which was LAST week... no call nothing, we called him last week he said waiting for concrete guys, maybe next week. Hey a week or 2 I can take.I sincerely feel for those of you with your horror stories of years in construction and additional funds and heartache.I hope I do not join you.

TC said:

I have never picketed anything in my life but I will be willing to attend this one. Don, can you get this thing going? Advertise, get the word out somehow and lets make it happen. To some of Realitys defenders you must forget that we carefully picked our building site and spend countless hours taking care of so many details. To tell us to just sell it is missing the point. I love my land and location/neighbors, that is why we built a home there. It's not about us making money, but having as Reality advertises "your dream home". So much for "sweet dreams" in so many cases. A realtor told us that she was pre-selling a house and as soon as it sold Reality stopped working on it, it sat. To many of the same stories to not get together and make a voice. They made us feel like idiots and messed with our lives, time to make accountable.

Jo L McNealy said:

I as well can not "just sell" because we are building on property that has been in my husbands family since the early 1800's. What a ridiculous thing to suggest "JUST SELL"

john boy said:

HAY TC I,M CUROUS WHAT WOULD TURN IT BACK INTO YOUR DREAM HOME???

james randall nall said:

well john boy if you are tlking about who i think you are i do not care what mediator reality has they will loose and will pay all you costs of repair and so on .. i supose you guys after building litteraly hundeds and hundreds of houses probibly there are mistakes that should be addressed.. but at the price they charge and the ammount of homes they are constantly building every singel day the money to repair four of five homes will not even make them flench

Scrood Too said:

I have a finished Reality home but the punch list is a definite maybe. It took 15 months to build the thing. It is crappy quality, at least the finish work. I can't see through the walls to know what is inside. I have three friends who also used Reality. Similar situations. None of us would have anything to do with them again. It really is true that when you are buying something for a quarter of the going price, something has to be wrong. We all are victims of that truism. The posts here by Reality employees mostly confirm the high degree of unqualified labor they used. These people can not read nor write so how can they follow instructions? Pathetic. I think a class action suit might be appropriate and a contingency law firm might well be interested in taking Hummers and million-dollar homes away from undeserving folks. It is unlikely, we, the people would benefit directly however. A word on religion. I got some myself and I am glad I have a home in heaven waiting. I just hope to God it isn't built by Realty Homes!

Mike & Gina said:

Again.
Screwed us for more money again! First time builders such as us should have had a basic walk through with what we needed to do, Reality has jerked us around and costed us (so far) well over what our contract stated it would go for, and our roof isn't even on yet! We have made what will most likely turn out to be the biggest mistake of our lives going with reality homes, to break the contract would cost us about 15 grand, almost tempting to do, even with walls up, I don't want reality to have any more of our money based on principal alone now!


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